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Recommendations for TB Election

 

Old Nov 16, 12, 1:38 pm
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Originally Posted by tom911 View Post
I would like to see an interactive election forum where the members could ask follow up questions of the candidates. I would have enjoyed the chance to ask some candidates follow-up questions in the election forum, and I do see some interaction among candidates there, but members do not have the opportunity to ask candidates to expand on their answers.

I would also like to see a rule that those candidates that don't participate in the public election forum be removed from the ballot prior to voting.
Agreed which I have also recommended recently on this forum. It can become "cluttered", can have moderation issues etc, but I suggest its tried next year as a test.
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Old Nov 16, 12, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
The rules are not hard to find. There's a sticky thread entitled "What is the TalkBoard" and the guidelines are posted there, near the top of the thread.
Thanks, I found this;

"SECTION 3: BOARD ORGANIZATION
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B. Election/Selection
i. TalkBoard Members
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c. Campaigning is restricted to the current year's TalkBoard Election forum and members' signature lines. In order to respect the privacy of all members, campaigning by the TalkBoard candidates may not be done via mass usage of the FlyerTalk Private Message system or via mass-mailed FlyerTalk email campaigns. Any TalkBoard candidate found to be mass-emailing via the FlyerTalk email system or abusing the FlyerTalk Private Message or Social Networking system for the purpose of campaigning will be removed from the ballot by the FlyerTalk Host and will not be eligible to run in that year's TalkBoard elections."

First it doesnt include the motion which passed and which was included in my link, neither does it match the info CS sent to candidates. So I still maintain its hard to find.

Second it doesnt make fully sense. As first sentence limits campaigning to TB election forum and signature as a postive limitation, while second sentence has a negative limitation where its listing where campaigning is not allowed. If the two parts are read separate they can lead to very different results. If they are read together the latter is totally redundant.
But as the latter is most specific, its the best guide line as lex specialis.

Stating an opinion in an open thread on a hot topic, despite not being discussed for months, is not campaigning.

Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
I'm happy to hear proposed improvements, but as far as I'm concerned, the TB is in limbo until the new members are seated. Anything else would be unfair and unwieldy at this point.
Agreed on that one. Let the discussion start, and new TB to draft improvements.
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Old Nov 17, 12, 10:24 am
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I'll say (again ) I like the rules how they are. FT is about points and travel, not politics. You've put out a platform, you've answered questions from the floor about what you consider important to FT and we have your posts to judge you by. There's nothing to stop anyone asking by PM if they want more information. Let's not turn this into a hoopla.

And, knowing FT of old, and TB of old, I'm sure any attempt to run discussions between members and candidates would turn very acrimonious, which means the mods would have to step in, which means some candidates (or members) would then cry about censorship because they have not been able to get their digs and their jabs in, and I feel sorry for anyone having to try and manage that since they'll be to blame.

Lets leave it as a relatively low key event, and remember FT is about points and miles, not politics.
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Old Nov 17, 12, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by Jenbel View Post
I'll say (again ) I like the rules how they are. FT is about points and travel, not politics. You've put out a platform, you've answered questions from the floor about what you consider important to FT and we have your posts to judge you by. There's nothing to stop anyone asking by PM if they want more information. Let's not turn this into a hoopla.

And, knowing FT of old, and TB of old, I'm sure any attempt to run discussions between members and candidates would turn very acrimonious, which means the mods would have to step in, which means some candidates (or members) would then cry about censorship because they have not been able to get their digs and their jabs in, and I feel sorry for anyone having to try and manage that since they'll be to blame.

Lets leave it as a relatively low key event, and remember FT is about points and miles, not politics.
Your opinion has been noted (again ) and carries the same weight of any other member of FlyerTalk, I'm pretty sure.

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I fully believe that the members of TalkBoard *not* up for re-election (or not running) in a given year should be the ones moderating the debates -- and that the debates should be open to dialogue between the candidates and general members. I'd prefer the candidates to be able to say what they want and when they want -- I'd like to see the rules relaxed dramatically -- but since the rules are what the rules are, I'd also like to see them be followed so that the playing field is level.

It's the TB guidelines and rules that need to be followed here -- these generally have nothing to do with TOS violations. Nothing posted or deleted have anything to do with the FT TOS. It should be the TB members with no skin in the election moderating this discussion, IMO, with a very light hand.

Maybe something to think about when the new TB is seated.
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Old Nov 17, 12, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by RichMSN View Post
I fully believe that the members of TalkBoard *not* up for re-election (or not running) in a given year should be the ones moderating the debates -- and that the debates should be open to dialogue between the candidates and general members. I'd prefer the candidates to be able to say what they want and when they want -- I'd like to see the rules relaxed dramatically -- ...
Two brilliant and creative proposals to consider there (first one new, second has been supported by several this year)
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Old Nov 17, 12, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by travelkid View Post
Two brilliant and creative proposals to consider there (first one new, second has been supported by several this year)
I've copied my post in the private TB forum for discussion.

And no, I'm not campaigning. Who knows whether I will even run (or be alive) next November?
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Old Nov 17, 12, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by travelkid View Post
I would suggest to TB (due to the timing, likely the new TB) to have a look into the "rules" for election.

I did read the headlines for all TB votes for the last years to find the current rules. This is the last vote I found;
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/town-...-election.html

Before I propose improvements, is this the current version? I saw a link yesterday on this forum but either Im blind or its redacted?
Let's all focus on this original thread posting.
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