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Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19127734)
The SmartPark JFK "Confirm To Earn" Frequent Parker Loyalty Program is the only program that: 1. Automatically starts accumulating points for parkers with any effort on their part. Simply redeem your reservation and its 1pt for every paid day. Every 7 points = 1 free added to your account automatically. 2. No need to sign up or register. As of September 21, 2011. When you place a reservation at http://www.smartparkjfk.com your placement of the reservation starts the accumulation process. You simply look at the top of your reservation confirmation email and you will see a temporary password. It is built into the edit/cancel/print part of the reservation system. Other programs require you to sign up in order to receive free days. Then you have to carry a card or key fob or print out. Your free days are automatically added AND YOU control how and when to use them. YOU apply and save them to your future reservation(s).
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19137548)
While I certainly see what you mean and understand your post. I have more than just a business interest in SmartPark JFK.
I ACTUALLY want to HELP REDUCE travelers costs when traveling. SmartPark JFK is a vehicle(no pun intended) for that.
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19137548)
I have complete control and anything I do for anyone on FlyerTalk is at my own discretion.
I can give away one free day. I can give away two free days. (I have already done this for two members on flyertalk) I can give away many free days. Quite frankly, I can comp the entire stay at SmartPark JFK. So, you see, its a little more "personal" than just "business" for me ;)
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19140587)
In my experience, other facilities have:
- DENIED the customer their free days at checkout because they actually do not keep tracking of them automatically as they claim to do(pretty much saying they do because we say we do and in fact... DO! - DENIED the customer free day(s) at checkout because they didnt have printout, FPP card, key fob, etc. - Fine print that lets their free days/points/rewards expire. Our points do not expire. While it is possible that they may in the future. Currently I am fighting for NOT EXPIRING EVER! You're really not making a good case for why there should be a Frequent Parker section, you're mainly just pitching us why your program is better. Instead of bashing your competitors you should have come here to talk about how the forum needs a section for talking about Frequent Parker programs, but alas you're clearly promoting only ONE Frequent Parker Program.
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19140587)
Answer 1: Yes, I am. I would rather not refer to competitors though. I do know how their programs work and they are shady in some cases. I can PM you with the info I have on the other programs :) I'm not a moderator, heck I'm not even close to being a voice of authority when it comes to the travel forums, but at the end of the day each of your posts just reek of a company plugging for business. Don't try to thinly veil your motives behind the idea of helping customers save money and then later say you don't want to send people to your "competitors" even though they might save money that way. If you're REALLY posting this on your own time and not as a company plug and even if it's being posted on company time you should have no problem talking about your competitors and letting THEIR product stand or fall on it's own. If your company really is better than others then you don't need to attack THEIR product in order to make yours look better. Sales 101: Customers know when you're being insincere. |
You have clearly made up your mind on my intentions. Unfortunate.
Sometimes... someone... just wants to "do right" and help people in some small way (few bucks, few free days, etc) THATS ME! Quite simply - if ANYONE needs JFK parking and wants free days - I am the go to guy. Thats all, nothing more. Being offended by having a "inside connection" for lack of a better term is something I cannot control. EVERYONE has the choice to go to another facility. If there is any way that I can earn your trust I am open to suggestions? Sincerely - HAVE A GREAT DAY! I WILL :) Oz (that guy)
Originally Posted by serioustraveler
(Post 19244985)
Citation needed, but really this entire thread just screams promoting your company.
Sure, you say this isn't just about promoting SmartPark JFK, and that you want to help REDUCE travelers costs. I'll remember this. Sure as heck smells like business to me, given that you're working with predetermined "discounts" you're "authorized" to give us. Unless you have some empirical data to back this, you just come off as a salesman pitching that YOUR product is superior to your competitors. You're really not making a good case for why there should be a Frequent Parker section, you're mainly just pitching us why your program is better. Instead of bashing your competitors you should have come here to talk about how the forum needs a section for talking about Frequent Parker programs, but alas you're clearly promoting only ONE Frequent Parker Program. Er what, you said earlier that it's not just about your program. I'm not a moderator, heck I'm not even close to being a voice of authority when it comes to the travel forums, but at the end of the day each of your posts just reek of a company plugging for business. Don't try to thinly veil your motives behind the idea of helping customers save money and then later say you don't want to send people to your "competitors" even though they might save money that way. If you're REALLY posting this on your own time and not as a company plug and even if it's being posted on company time you should have no problem talking about your competitors and letting THEIR product stand or fall on it's own. If your company really is better than others then you don't need to attack THEIR product in order to make yours look better. Sales 101: Customers know when you're being insincere. |
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19436840)
You have clearly made up your mind on my intentions. Unfortunate.
Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19436840)
If there is any way that I can earn your trust I am open to suggestions?
One other thing to consider, in addition to the questions in the post I linked to above, might be to delineate exactly how putting nationwide/worldwide parking information in one forum might be better than putting it in area-specific forums. Are there any nationwide (or at least multi-airport) frequent parking programs? |
Originally Posted by lo2e
(Post 19437693)
Are there any nationwide (or at least multi-airport) frequent parking programs?
I think parking threads are best served in the regional forums and not a consolidated one for all of the US, let alone other countries. |
Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
(Post 19437870)
I think parking threads are best served in the regional forums and not a consolidated one for all of the US, let alone other countries.
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Originally Posted by SmartParkJFK
(Post 19436840)
Sometimes... someone... just wants to "do right" and help people in some small way (few bucks, few free days, etc) THATS ME!
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 19440208)
Originally Posted by FlyinHawaiian
(Post 19437870)
I think parking threads are best served in the regional forums and not a consolidated one for all of the US, let alone other countries.
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Why does Park'N Fly not have its own forum??
They are nationwide and the largest in their industry?? |
Originally Posted by gkbiiii
(Post 19443356)
Why does Park'N Fly not have its own forum??
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Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 19443667)
Should certain vendors be allowed to have their own forums? Don't think the Talk Board has ruled on that one yet.
I track two Parking programs in my AwardWallet account, and have had to guess on how/if/what regarding redemption in the past. So being raised by a company rep doesn't automatically brand it as a horrible scam that at least one person thinks it is. How 'bout this: I, as a FT member and user of frequent parker programs, with absolutely no business affiliation with any parking company, propose the creation of frequent parking program-related forum(s). |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 19474301)
How would an Park N Fly forum differ from a Avis forum, a United forum, a Hilton forum, etc.? Those all seem to be dedicated to one company.
It looks like the two frequent parking companies that have now been mentioned in this thread seem to have one way to earn rewards (by using their parking lot frequently), and one way to spend such rewards (free/discounted/more convenient parking). Neither has a credit card associated with it, and neither allows you to redeem your "rewards" for anything that I could find other than parking-related services. There doesn't seem to be quite the level of complication with frequent parking companies that there does with the frequent flyer/stayer/renter programs, and trust me, I wish that all programs were as simple as the parking companies seem to make it! ^ But because it is so simple, it just doesn't seem to me to warrant a complete forum for it, especially since, as mentioned before, there probably aren't a lot of people that would frequently use parking services at more than one airport.
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 19474301)
I, as a FT member and user of frequent parker programs, with absolutely no business affiliation with any parking company, propose the creation of frequent parking program-related forum(s).
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Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 19474301)
How would an Park N Fly forum differ from a Avis forum, a United forum, a Hilton forum, etc.? Those all seem to be dedicated to one company.
How 'bout this: I, as a FT member and user of frequent parker programs, with absolutely no business affiliation with any parking company, propose the creation of frequent parking program-related forum(s). Having said that, I think for the most part the need is met already in regional forums. So it will take some convincing to get me to vote for one. Having said that, if you'd like TB to consider such a forum, then I would recommend either the OP or CPRich answering the following, which helps Talkboard when considering new forums. The following are qualitative criteria that the TalkBoard believes are useful to consider when evaluating proposals to create, close, split, or move forums. Whenever a forum change is discussed on the TalkBoard Topics, the TalkBoard encourages posters to fully address these criteria in addition to any other reasons supporting or opposing the change. 1. Will the forum be (or is it now) beneficial to FlyerTalk? 2. Will the new forum benefit a relationship with FlyerTalk? E.g., does the forum provide value for FT members, such as a friendly ear highly placed in the company 3. Is FT the best place to discuss this subject? 4. Is there a passionate following? This is essential in order to provide dedicated expert helpers to get questions answered. 5. Is a critical mass of posts and readers anticipated or existing? We need adequate traffic to keep everyone visiting frequently. One living forum is more valuable than two mostly dead ones. 6. Is this the best place on FlyerTalk for this subject? This is the classification issue. The answer depends primarily on achieving and maintaining critical mass. It also depends on whether or where the discussion might (or does) occur in the absence of the forum. 7. For proposals to split a forum, is the split expected to improve the signal to noise ratio? Why? Cheers. |
Originally Posted by CPRich
(Post 19474301)
How would an Park N Fly forum differ from a Avis forum, a United forum, a Hilton forum, etc.? Those all seem to be dedicated to one company.
Are that that many national parking chains to give them a forum of their own? We have some independent ones I can think of around SFO (Burlingame Airport Parking, Anza, Park SFO). What would you do with them? |
Originally Posted by lo2e
(Post 19437693)
Unfortunate also that you ignored JDiver's post HERE which asked for some specific information to gauge the level of interest of your proposed forum. Either you missed it or chose not to answer, but either way it would go a LONG way toward you making a case for the forum. As of now, I would agree with previous comments that you've done little more than advertise your product, which does not constitute creating a forum by itself.
I assure you Sir I did not ignore it. I did miss it. At this point, I see the posts and that a forum is not something that is desired and I am ok with that. :) If anyone needs anything JFK parking related just let me know - simple!
Originally Posted by tom911
(Post 19440221)
That option is currently available to you in the New York City forum. You can help every poster that asks about parking at JFK right there.
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I would certainly support the formation of the suggested forum in question.
There are a number of airport parking facilities — some of them national in the United States — which offer loyalty programs. |
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