SkiAdcock

“Moved by nsx and seconded by Cholula:

Creation of a Games forum

The TalkBoard recommends creation of a Games forum under the OMNI category intended for threads such as the following:

1. Counting games
2. Word association games
3. Threads for posting the time of day
4. FT-specific but not forum-specific contests and giveaways where posting in the thread gives you a chance to win, even if you only win bragging rights
5. Any thread that has in the moderators' judgment has become a game.

Although the moderators always have the final decision on whether and where to move any thread, in the TalkBoard's opinion Lounge threads in non-OMNI forums are not Game threads.”

This vote will close on January 31, 2012 at 11:03 pm or after all TalkBoard members have registered their vote, whichever comes first.

Per the TalkBoard Guidelines:

A motion shall pass if at least two-thirds of the yes or no votes cast by TalkBoard members are ‘yes’ and a majority of the total TalkBoard membership votes 'yes.'

The purpose of posting voting topics in the public TalkBoard Topics forum is to solicit member feedback on any motions that are up for a vote and to allow for comments after a vote is made. It is at the sole discretion of the individual TalkBoard members whether they choose to post in the public discussion thread, there being no requirement to do so.

So while there is already a thread and discussion on this general topic and it is safe to assume that TalkBoard members have reviewed that thread, this thread is about this specific motion.

dchristiva

Oppose.

Mary2e

I support this motion.

nsx

Why? I know the arguments in favor of the proposal, but I'd like to hear the arguments against it in case I overlooked something.

dchristiva

Because we all know that posts in a "Games" forum will contribute as much to the FT community as some of the posts in a Lounge forum or OMNI - nothing. I think we ought to stick with consistency and count ALL posts if that's the direction in which we're moving. I understand that the idea of segregating "Games" threads/posts is appealing because it's easy to identify that those posts don't add community value or could lead to post-padding (if that's what TB is worried about), but there are and will be numerous posts in Lounge forums or in OMNI that would probably deserve to be segregated from a member's post count on the same grounds, but they aren't as easy to identify.

nsx

Perfect post count justice is not attainable. Even if it were, people disagree on what it means.

Nevertheless, I hope you would agree that if OMNI posts are to be counted then this proposal moves in the right direction.

dchristiva

This is exactly why I oppose the motion. Identifying Games posts that don't contribute to the main mission of FT is easy, but there are so many others in OMNI, Lounges, and elsewhere that fall in the same vein.

Just count everything and be done with it.

kipper

Perfect post count justice, going forward at least, is attainable. Simply count all posts.
I agree with you.

Pegasus23

I support the creation of a Games thread. I would prefer it be stand alone. I would support a count exclusive to games thread as long as it is stand alone.

Dovster

+1

+1

(I think I have just made this a game thread.)

N830MH

Right. I agree. They should be right direction for everyone else.

Ancien Maestro

Better organization to have all the games under one forum/heading..

tcook052

Opposed. Enough with the massive FT makeover, which itself seems almost a game within a game.

Counsellor

Of course they are. Put the lounge threads over there, too. And any other threads designed to pad posts without providing substance -- if they *really* have any use, people will follow them over there.

(If the posts aren't counted, the lounge threads would die in a week, I'd bet.)

lin821

Let's not rehash the whole lounge subforum in OMNI debate, OK?

This motion is about OMNI Games Forum. Let's try to stay on topic this time.

ETA:
You can't be more wrong. It can die even when posts are counting. Lounge threads are never about counting posts.

A home doesn't become empty just because of change of address.