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bhatnasx Dec 18, 2011 4:44 pm

32...been on TB since I was 27...on FT since I was 23 :)

Mary2e Dec 18, 2011 5:16 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 17651335)
32...been on TB since I was 27...on FT since I was 23 :)

And in my mind, you will ALWAYS be the free iPod guy :D ;)

ZenFlyer Dec 18, 2011 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by skchin (Post 17650854)
Yes to term limits. What is the average age of the talkboard members?

I'm curious, why do you think this is relevant?

RichMSN Dec 18, 2011 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 17650724)
I believe only Spiff & I have been on the board on the past 5 years - there has been turnover on all other positions.

I'm serving my 3rd 2-year term. At this time, regardless of whether this motion passes or not (and I've voted against it), I do not plan on running for TalkBoard again.

If this motion passes, neither nsx, Spiff, or jackal will be eligible to run when their terms are up as well.

I had to go a long way back to answer the question I had in my mind when all this started up. Spiff has been a member since early 2002. He was appointed to the TB by Randy as has been a member ever since.

Football Fan Dec 18, 2011 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17651592)
I had to go a long way back to answer the question I had in my mind when all this started up. Spiff has been a member since early 2002.

Thanks for the info.

Which important initiatives has he championed during his time on TalkBoard?

RichMSN Dec 18, 2011 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by attorney28 (Post 17651605)
Thanks for the info.

Which important initiatives has he championed during his time on TalkBoard?

I'd rather not go down that path. This isn't an election campaign.

bhatnasx Dec 18, 2011 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17651708)
I'd rather not go down that path. This isn't an election campaign.

^

bhatnasx Dec 18, 2011 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Mary2e (Post 17651463)
And in my mind, you will ALWAYS be the free iPod guy :D ;)

Believe it or not, but I still have mine. I took it apart about a year ago & put in a 32GB flash drive & a new battery. Never needed upgrade the "fancy" new ones - 32GB & a 5+ hour battery works for my needs! :D

Football Fan Dec 18, 2011 8:11 pm


Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 17651708)
I'd rather not go down that path. This isn't an election campaign.

Fair enough. Will revisit this question when the time comes, if necessary ;).

Jenbel Dec 19, 2011 4:21 am

It is a bit disturbing to read so many of you seem to think that having more turnover on TB will make TB more amenable to change. How do you know that - the members may continue to elect TB representatives who prefer the status quo?

Is this being done because you think it will be good for FT, or because there are certain individuals on TB who you want to get off, but keep being elected by the members?

If it's the latter, well frankly, I'd be very disappointed that you were trying to change the rules because you don't approve of whom the members elect. You don't get to make that choice - they do.

I think this does have potential to be a positive thing, but I fear it is being done for underhand, manipulative reasons, where you are trying to circumvent who the members have been chosing to represent them and stack TB to be more like what you would like to see, rather than what the members would like to see.

It seems some would like to see TB set itself up in opposition to the management of FT - there would be only one outcome to that, and that would not be good for TB or for the members you supposedly represent.

Spiff Dec 19, 2011 4:35 am


Originally Posted by Jenbel (Post 17653378)
It is a bit disturbing to read so many of you seem to think that having more turnover on TB will make TB more amenable to change. How do you know that - the members may continue to elect TB representatives who prefer the status quo?

Is this being done because you think it will be good for FT, or because there are certain individuals on TB who you want to get off, but keep being elected by the members?

If it's the latter, well frankly, I'd be very disappointed that you were trying to change the rules because you don't approve of whom the members elect. You don't get to make that choice - they do.

I think this does have potential to be a positive thing, but I fear it is being down for underhand, manipulative reasons, where you are trying to circumvent who the members have been chosing to represent them and stack TB to be more like what you would like to see, rather than what the members would like to see.

It seems some would like to see TB set itself up in opposition to the management of FT - there would be only one outcome to that, and that would not be good for TB or for the members you supposedly represent.

Well said, Jenbel. ^

Prospero Dec 19, 2011 5:10 am

Thank you Jenbel for expressing exactly my thoughts. Might I add, where is there any evidence of cronyism setting in on TB? Each year, the membership has elected in fresh representatives as well as re-elected experienced TB members. Does anyone seriously believe this mix is unhealthy?

Frankly, I am beginning to tune out of TB Topics. I have a great deal of passion for FT and want to see our community go from strength to strength but proposing legislation for the sake of legislation is a real turn off for me.

Mary2e Dec 19, 2011 6:28 am


Originally Posted by bhatnasx (Post 17652057)
Believe it or not, but I still have mine. I took it apart about a year ago & put in a 32GB flash drive & a new battery. Never needed upgrade the "fancy" new ones - 32GB & a 5+ hour battery works for my needs! :D

Wow! I didn't even think it would open. Kudos to you!

RichMSN Dec 19, 2011 6:41 am


Originally Posted by Jenbel (Post 17653378)
It is a bit disturbing to read so many of you seem to think that having more turnover on TB will make TB more amenable to change. How do you know that - the members may continue to elect TB representatives who prefer the status quo?

Is this being done because you think it will be good for FT, or because there are certain individuals on TB who you want to get off, but keep being elected by the members?

If it's the latter, well frankly, I'd be very disappointed that you were trying to change the rules because you don't approve of whom the members elect. You don't get to make that choice - they do.

I think this does have potential to be a positive thing, but I fear it is being done for underhand, manipulative reasons, where you are trying to circumvent who the members have been chosing to represent them and stack TB to be more like what you would like to see, rather than what the members would like to see.

It seems some would like to see TB set itself up in opposition to the management of FT - there would be only one outcome to that, and that would not be good for TB or for the members you supposedly represent.

I think this time we are seeing the black helicopters coming out again -- but by people much different than the usual suspects.

There may be people that are examples that drive home the point the need for such a measure, but this isn't personal.

The United States didn't see a need for the 22nd amendment until FDR decided to be president-for-life. Yes, he won the elections. Yes, the people wanted him to serve. But it was decided that this wasn't good for the country and the 22nd amendment was passed by the very people elected to represent the same people who elected FDR.

This is no different, IMO. And sorry for the US-centric reasoning, Jenbel, but it's the best I can come up with on a Monday morning.

Football Fan Dec 19, 2011 7:06 am


Originally Posted by Jenbel (Post 17653378)
You don't get to make that choice - they do.

That argument can be made against any term limits. I think Chavez made that argument in Venezuela, by the way.


Originally Posted by Jenbel (Post 17653378)
It seems some would like to see TB set itself up in opposition to the management of FT - there would be only one outcome to that, and that would not be good for TB or for the members you supposedly represent.

Term limits would affect everyone equally. They have nothing to do with opposition to the management of FT.


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