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Originally Posted by Dovster
(Post 17613233)
I believe that I was the first proponent of term limits and the first person I applied it to was myself. When I was running for my second term I said that I would never seek a third one.
I ran for TB because I felt that certain changes needed to be made. IMHO, that is the only valid reason to seek to be on it. If someone can accomplish what he wants to do in two terms, he has no need to seek a third one. If he can't accomplish it in two terms, there is no reason to believe he will be any more successful in a third, fourth, or fifth term. He should therefore step aside and let someone else have a crack at getting these changes made. |
Originally Posted by Smaug
(Post 17615406)
Strongly in favor of term limits.
Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 17616979)
+1 to that. Do a max of two terms (either back to back or with a break in between) then move on. This is a BBS where people discuss first world problems after all...
For those of you who just want to listen to the voters, maybe you support a FT forum wide poll? Thats a great idea on many subjects@:-) |
I'm in favor of term limits, as it gives more people an opportunity to volunteer and also it gives people a break from serving, and gives them a chance to relax and enjoy being a regular member.
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The currently suggested motion allows for previous TB members to run again, after taking a year off, so it's not limiting them to 4 years and that's it. It's simply giving them a vacation for at least a year.
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Originally Posted by SkiAdcock
(Post 17612810)
unweildy (sp?)
As for the topic, I lean towards supporting term limits. There were a lot of members who ran for TB, and mostly former TB members were elected. Terms limits allows for some new blood, never a bad thing... |
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17617211)
[And] also it gives people a break from serving, and gives them a chance to relax and enjoy being a regular member.
Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17617258)
It's simply giving them a vacation for at least a year.
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Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 17617525)
I didn't realize TBers took a break from being a regular remember or weren't able to relax during their tenure. ;)
"We've always been at war with Eastasia." |
Originally Posted by essxjay
(Post 17617525)
"We've always been at war with Eastasia."
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Originally Posted by kipper
(Post 17617760)
As I think someone else said on another thread, no longer having to log-in and check a specific forum was a change for them.
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
(Post 17617764)
Huh? I fail to see any relevance 1984 has on the quote, or even on this topic in general.
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As I said in the other thread, I am not a fan of term limits.... I trust the voters.
HOWEVER, if term limits are going to be instituted to get "fresh blood", then it should be that no member can serve more than two full two-year terms EVER. None of this take a year olff and you can come back on. I would also say it should apply to current members as well... and should not be grandfathered in. If you will have served two terms at the end of your current term, you are ineligible to stand for election again. Either do not do it... or do it all the way. |
Originally Posted by wharvey
(Post 17618094)
As I said in the other thread, I am not a fan of term limits.... I trust the voters.
HOWEVER, if term limits are going to be instituted to get "fresh blood", then it should be that no member can serve more than two full two-year terms EVER. None of this take a year olff and you can come back on. I would also say it should apply to current members as well... and should not be grandfathered in. If you will have served two terms at the end of your current term, you are ineligible to stand for election again. Either do not do it... or do it all the way. |
In addition to the generic list Sharon quotes above, I’m trying to work on a pros and cons list specific to this issue as it relates to FT, since that’s how my mind tends to work.
I’ve combed the threads and here is what I have come up with. Anything missing on either side? Pros of term limits as proposed: Overcomes inherent incumbent advantage, ensuring new blood and fresh ideas in each TB seat every four years at the most. Motivates TB members to be active rather than passive stewards of FT as their time to serve is limited. Prevents a permanent class of TB members from emerging/prevents posters from using long-term service on TB as a CV-builder for their travel blogs, services or other for-profit ventures. Ensures that TB members spend at least one year out of five experiencing FT from the perspective of a poster rather than a TB member/poster. Ensures that no weirdo masochists use prolonged service on the TB to get their sick jollies. ;) Cons of term limits as proposed: Limits the ability of a poster to vote for their favorite successful candidate to be on the TB three times in a row. Would require even incredibly effective, popular TB members to take a year off every four years. On the flip side, potentially does not go far enough by allowing a TB veteran to run again after taking a year off. |
Wow.. 2 terms in a row and never again..
I guess if TB really wants new blood, this is the way to do it..:) |
Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(Post 17614775)
New blood is good. Old blood needs oxygen from time to time, otherwise it is blue and doesn't feed the brain well. I note some of the crustiest, oldest, and most dedicated FT members are in support of this. (And I add my amen to Eastbay1K's comment with love and respect to a few members of the current TalkBoard who I consider good friends.) Who's to say the fresh blood can't reach out to the crustiest, oldest, and most dedicated former TB members for advice and counsel? |
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