Suggestion: Creation of a Lounge Subforum in OMNI
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Is this thread really a technical question?
No, that's not what I said. I only know that I know much less than what I don't know.
I was merely pointing out my understanding of and participation in both OMNI and lounge threads is longer than you and that's how I base my position in this thread. That's it. You do make most OMNI posts than I, Much more. But that doesn't mean you fully know the OMNI history and the OMNI way before your join date. There's an OMNI or two you never ever know.
I didn't and don't try to apply what I know about something from somewhere else to FT community. And I don't speak for everyone since everybody is entitled to her/his own opinions.
Renaming OMNI, that's not this thread is about, is it?
In case you didn't really read my earlier post, allow me to quote myself:
The way TB works is to discuss one topic in one thread. Since this thread is NOT about renaming any forum, which is clearly what you've been describing and selling, I would strongly suggest you to start a new thread to solicit your idea about renaming OMNI and lounges. To borrow your own words, I don't see what the issue is to start a new thread for a different topic. Not to mention there's an established guideline for doing so.
Can we please stay on topic here? With due respect, with the way you are suggesting, all I can say is you really don't quite understand the dynamics of both OMNI and lounge threads on FT. At least not the OMNI and lounge thread I know.
Redirecting all lounge threads to OMNI is technically feasible but the existence of lounge threads is NOT a technical question and never will be. You can't use technology to address philosophical pursuit.
Just like enabling photos in OMNI is not a technical issue or challenge to start with for those advocates. For us saying what's wrong with embedded photos was/is talking to deaf ears.
I was merely pointing out my understanding of and participation in both OMNI and lounge threads is longer than you and that's how I base my position in this thread. That's it. You do make most OMNI posts than I, Much more. But that doesn't mean you fully know the OMNI history and the OMNI way before your join date. There's an OMNI or two you never ever know.
I didn't and don't try to apply what I know about something from somewhere else to FT community. And I don't speak for everyone since everybody is entitled to her/his own opinions.
Renaming OMNI, that's not this thread is about, is it?
"lounge" (a commonly used term on several forums I know) it is clear it is the 'off topic' section, and within that section you could have a "Politics and Religion lounge", a "General Lounge" and all the specific lounges that exist, the "Delta Lounge", the "AF Lounge" etc. I don't see what the issue is with grouping them under one heading - I don't think anyone is suggesting that all the lounges get merged into one so you have Delta-ites and Air France people talking on the same posts, there would still be the individual "lounges".
In case you didn't know, renaming a forum name takes a formal TB motion to make it happen on FT. Not to mention there is no lounge forum yet, subforum or not. FWIW, there is The TalkBoard Guidelines: How to suggest new forum and/or subforum. @:-)
Can we please stay on topic here? With due respect, with the way you are suggesting, all I can say is you really don't quite understand the dynamics of both OMNI and lounge threads on FT. At least not the OMNI and lounge thread I know.
Just like enabling photos in OMNI is not a technical issue or challenge to start with for those advocates. For us saying what's wrong with embedded photos was/is talking to deaf ears.
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If the link in each airline/community forum was simply a redirect to the new forum, it would be like the exact same thing, which was my point. It would just have a different home on the server, where posts didn't count.
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If the lounge thread were to live in a new "OMNI-Lounge" forum, where posts weren't counted (like they aren't counted in OMNI), but which was not a sub-forum of OMNI, and as such, did not have the post/days access requirement, it would do away with the double-standard treatment of OT material.
If the link in each airline/community forum was simply a redirect to the new forum, it would be like the exact same thing, which was my point. It would just have a different home on the server, where posts didn't count.
If the link in each airline/community forum was simply a redirect to the new forum, it would be like the exact same thing, which was my point. It would just have a different home on the server, where posts didn't count.
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Honestly, what is the big deal about the lounge threads existing in the individual forums? And how does a re-direct 'solve' the problem? The 'thread' will still show as being in the airline forum. Is this all because of post counts? Does anyone really care?(well, I guess the answer to this is 'yes'.) And if they do, why? I am willing to donate my post count to anyone who wants it. The lounge threads usually maintain a high degree of civil that the forums themselves don't maintain, lets keep them there.
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Honestly, what is the big deal about the lounge threads existing in the individual forums? And how does a re-direct 'solve' the problem? The 'thread' will still show as being in the airline forum. Is this all because of post counts? Does anyone really care?(well, I guess the answer to this is 'yes'.) And if they do, why? I am willing to donate my post count to anyone who wants it. The lounge threads usually maintain a high degree of civil that the forums themselves don't maintain, lets keep them there.
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I suppose we should not count any "+1" posts since they are of little substance. I can't believe there's more concern over this than the vitriolic posts that are allowed to be tossed back and forth.
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Quite frankly, I consider this entire thread to be asinine.
We are talking about establishing a new subform simply to pacify people throwing temper tantrums because their Omni posts are not counted but Lounge posts are. Post counts are so meaningless that this is truly a case of the tail wagging the dog.
I do not give a crap how many posts show under my name but I definitely want the Delta Forum Lounge Thread to remain in the Delta Forum.
I can well foresee a situation where Subject X, which concerns something that Delta did, will be extremely controversial and causing very bad feelings on the Forum (yes, it has happened in the past). The Delta moderators, feeling that it has been discussed to death, and seeking to cool off tempers, decide that no further posts on Subject X will be allowed.
The Omni mods, who are used to a much different standard of what is or is not permissible, do not see this issue in the same light as the Delta mods. Hence, they allow it when Situation X is discussed on the Delta Forum Lounge Thread -- which keeps fanning the flames of discord on the Forum.
It is ridiculous to open ourselves to this kind of situation just because some people are crying, "Waa! Waa! My Omni posts are not being counted but your Lounge posts are!"
We are talking about establishing a new subform simply to pacify people throwing temper tantrums because their Omni posts are not counted but Lounge posts are. Post counts are so meaningless that this is truly a case of the tail wagging the dog.
I do not give a crap how many posts show under my name but I definitely want the Delta Forum Lounge Thread to remain in the Delta Forum.
I can well foresee a situation where Subject X, which concerns something that Delta did, will be extremely controversial and causing very bad feelings on the Forum (yes, it has happened in the past). The Delta moderators, feeling that it has been discussed to death, and seeking to cool off tempers, decide that no further posts on Subject X will be allowed.
The Omni mods, who are used to a much different standard of what is or is not permissible, do not see this issue in the same light as the Delta mods. Hence, they allow it when Situation X is discussed on the Delta Forum Lounge Thread -- which keeps fanning the flames of discord on the Forum.
It is ridiculous to open ourselves to this kind of situation just because some people are crying, "Waa! Waa! My Omni posts are not being counted but your Lounge posts are!"
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I'm only one vote on TB but I'm certainly not in support of moving the Lounge threads out of their current forums.
As others have said, I feel they foster a sense of community and goodwill in their respective forums. Plus, as an example, the Delta Lounge thread has spawned an awful lot of fun get-togethers and DO's and has enhanced a number of personal friendships.
Moving these Lounges to another forum would destroy much of this camaraderie IMO. Plus, as OMNI is currently configured, it would not allow any newbies to participate and that's a major downside to me.
As others have said, I feel they foster a sense of community and goodwill in their respective forums. Plus, as an example, the Delta Lounge thread has spawned an awful lot of fun get-togethers and DO's and has enhanced a number of personal friendships.
Moving these Lounges to another forum would destroy much of this camaraderie IMO. Plus, as OMNI is currently configured, it would not allow any newbies to participate and that's a major downside to me.
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Dov, you must have just read this thread over TravelBuzz! Forum, haven't you?
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Few examples :
Boingo
Coke Reward
healthier lifestyle
Chicken Biscuit
favourite breakfast
favourite gin
So in the name of the Consistency you should ask them to be moved in Omni, shouldn't you ?
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there are dozens of threads other than the "Good Morning" or "How's the weather"/Lounges Threads and you know them (and increase your posts account with) perfectly
Few examples :
Boingo
Coke Reward
healthier lifestyle
Chicken Biscuit
favourite breakfast
favourite gin
So in the name of the Consistency you should ask them to be moved in Omni, shouldn't you ?
Few examples :
Boingo
Coke Reward
healthier lifestyle
Chicken Biscuit
favourite breakfast
favourite gin
So in the name of the Consistency you should ask them to be moved in Omni, shouldn't you ?
Like Mary said:
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The threads you quote are in the appropriate forums for the topic discussed in that thread. I will also mention that Boingo is great for use in airports, which, I'd guess, means it pertains to... GASP!!! Air travel!!!
Like Mary said:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16864355-post345.html
Like Mary said:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16864355-post345.html
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And actually wearing a sweater when the air conditioning is too cold is useful in an airport, means it pertains to... GASP!!! Air travel!!!
I am sorry but I think that your position is purely subjective and your personal interests related to the pattern of increase of your posts account.
If not, why you don't accept that all off-topic threads are moved to Omni?
Isn't that the real Consistency that you say you are calling for ?