Motion Failed to Pass: Restore Post Count Credit for Omni
Jul 26, 2011, 10:57 am
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Jul 26, 2011, 11:08 am
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So while there is already a thread and discussion on this general topic and it is safe to assume that TalkBoard members have reviewed that thread, this thread is about this specific motion. Please feel free to post questions, comments or any other sort of feedback.
I could be wrong in my interpretation, but that is why I offered the Omni thread.
Jul 26, 2011, 11:19 am
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Can I suggest amending this motion to include doing away with the evangelist status?
It looks to me like earning evangelist status gives these users some sort of respect that a non evangelist user might get.. So why not do away with it?
How about an asterisk system for those that earned it posting outside miles and points..
It looks to me like earning evangelist status gives these users some sort of respect that a non evangelist user might get.. So why not do away with it?
How about an asterisk system for those that earned it posting outside miles and points..
Jul 26, 2011, 11:21 am
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I've not been here very long but I think that many of the high post count people who've been here a long time have post counts that include Onmi posts from the time before Omni counting was stopped. That creates a potentially false image of the value of "older" contributor vs a newer one.
That's what I think takes the air out of the "Apostheid" balloon. Nobody should give any thought to post count when judging the content of someone's post, rather they should base their judgement on the quality of the advice in the post. @:-)
Until then let ALL the posts count!
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Jul 26, 2011, 11:46 am
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Jul 26, 2011, 12:00 pm
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No. OMNI posts should not count.
Neither should lounge posts. But that's a different story. Where moderators have permitted lounge posts (I assume so that the community of loungers have some ties), we cannot change now.
But that does not mean we should allow another forum to have posts count. That is what one calls "slippery slope".
Neither should lounge posts. But that's a different story. Where moderators have permitted lounge posts (I assume so that the community of loungers have some ties), we cannot change now.
But that does not mean we should allow another forum to have posts count. That is what one calls "slippery slope".
Jul 26, 2011, 12:08 pm
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Because OT threads in other forums are usually limited in number and strictly controlled, and their effect on members' post counts is correspondingly limited. Post counts are not a precise scientific measure, but they are a decent proportionate indication which is not skewed by a few OT posts in a few OT threads.
OMNI is a completely different ballgame.I am not one of them. In the present system, post counts do mean something. At present, if a FTer has a substantial post count and they are generally respected within the community, that post count is a significant piece of information.
If you add in all the OMNI posts, post counts will become pretty much meaningless.
OMNI is a completely different ballgame.I am not one of them. In the present system, post counts do mean something. At present, if a FTer has a substantial post count and they are generally respected within the community, that post count is a significant piece of information.
If you add in all the OMNI posts, post counts will become pretty much meaningless.
The side argument about lounge threads is an interesting parallel but this has not been addressed thus far by our Talk Board, and thus may be tackled separately. Let's try not cloud the issue.
Jul 26, 2011, 12:08 pm
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No. OMNI posts should not count.
Neither should lounge posts. But that's a different story. Where moderators have permitted lounge posts (I assume so that the community of loungers have some ties), we cannot change now.
But that does not mean we should allow another forum to have posts count. That is what one calls "slippery slope".
Neither should lounge posts. But that's a different story. Where moderators have permitted lounge posts (I assume so that the community of loungers have some ties), we cannot change now.
But that does not mean we should allow another forum to have posts count. That is what one calls "slippery slope".
Jul 26, 2011, 12:17 pm
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The Talk Board, by virtue of allowing images in Omni and stating it was to be treated like the rest of FT, already decided that Omni was just the same as the rest of FT.
As well, what does Dining Buzz have to do with the core mission of this site?
The arguments presented are listed as examples of different treatments for the same type posts. That is inconsistent and sends mixed messages.
As well, what does Dining Buzz have to do with the core mission of this site?
The arguments presented are listed as examples of different treatments for the same type posts. That is inconsistent and sends mixed messages.
Back on topic, I still say "no" to including OMNI posts in the post count.
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Jul 26, 2011, 12:22 pm
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I agree and by extension would prefer that posts in OMNI continue not to register against a member's post count.
The side argument about lounge threads is an interesting parallel but this has not been addressed thus far by our Talk Board, and thus may be tackled separately. Let's try not cloud the issue.
The side argument about lounge threads is an interesting parallel but this has not been addressed thus far by our Talk Board, and thus may be tackled separately. Let's try not cloud the issue.
You mean threads like this?
Now if I were to start this same thread in Omni wouldn’t you say it should be counted as well?
Jul 26, 2011, 12:23 pm
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Cheers.
Jul 26, 2011, 12:26 pm
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Whether lounge threads are allowed to stay in a forum is up to the mods of that forum. So far they seem to have allowed them. Whether they should have way back when is a separate issue, but one decided by the mods and/or Randy. I'd be surprised if the mods decide at this point to move the lounge threads to Omni (as has been suggested by some), but that's their decision to make & not TB's.
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Jul 26, 2011, 12:36 pm
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You mean threads like this?
Now if I were to start this same thread in Omni wouldn’t you say it should be counted as well?
Now if I were to start this same thread in Omni wouldn’t you say it should be counted as well?
This vote is whether OMNI posts should (or should not) register against a member's post count.If there are any strategic concerns relating to lounge style threads then that is something our TalkBoard may wish to raise separately. Thus far, TalkBoard has not tabled any such motion relating to lounge threads or lounge style threads.
Jul 26, 2011, 12:38 pm
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Anyone else notice that participation in the silly counting and 
threads dropped way down when they no longer contributed to one's post count?
I think that posts in Omni should only be counted if and when the silly games threads (as listed upthread) are separated out into their own ignorable forum. (Especially the counting threads - trying for 500,000 posts?)
threads dropped way down when they no longer contributed to one's post count? I think that posts in Omni should only be counted if and when the silly games threads (as listed upthread) are separated out into their own ignorable forum. (Especially the counting threads - trying for 500,000 posts?
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Jul 26, 2011, 12:47 pm
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When there was discussion about adding images to OMNI, one of the arguments for it was that allowing images in OMNI is simply treating OMNI the same way the rest of FT is treated. As such, that's all this would be doing would be to treat OMNI the same way as the rest of FT.