Motion Passed: Create Iberia Forum
Jul 1, 2011, 2:24 pm
#46
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I'm in favor as well.
Jul 2, 2011, 11:35 am
#47
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I don't know why certain General Members who speak up in this motion thread "think" they are casting any vote. 
Unless you are a TBer, you CANNOT vote on any TB motion.
I only wish there were more FTers who'd do their best to get familiar with how TalkBoard works. There's a sticky thread about TB voting already.
Please allow me to borrow an old post from another TB motion thread with highlights:
Just want to make sure we are on the same and correct page here.
Unless you are a TBer, you CANNOT vote on any TB motion.
I only wish there were more FTers who'd do their best to get familiar with how TalkBoard works. There's a sticky thread about TB voting already.
Please allow me to borrow an old post from another TB motion thread with highlights:
Just want to make sure we are on the same and correct page here.
Jul 2, 2011, 12:37 pm
#48
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Jul 2, 2011, 1:05 pm
#49
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Wrong board to bring this up, Chiffy! Not to mention your problems are more than just Chinese grammar.
I doubt it.
I've seen enough TB motion threads that most FTers with "I vote yes" types of comments in their posts really believe they are voting, while in reality, at least the the reality of TalkBoard, they can't.
The other thing about expressing one's opinions as a FTer in TalkBoard Topics Forum is that "I agree" & "+1" types of feedback actually doesn't help TBers base their decisions on their votes, unless:
1) the argument has been made clearly and/or established by other fellow FTers. Or
2) there's an almost unanimous "verdict" on the motion at hand.
The 9 TBers are not counting hands before they vote. They want to hear where you are coming from, with "substance." Does every proposal/suggestion threads here accomplish that? Sadly, no. That's why quite a few suggestion threads in TB Topics Forum fail to take off to the ground for TB motions.
This Iberia Forum motion thread, OTOH, has made it this far to be a motion. I don't know Iberia enough to provide any substance. That's why I want to make sure for those who are supportive of creating this new forum, or otherwise, can make a very good case before the voting ends on July 11.
The bottom line is FTers have no voting power. TBers do. And they need us FTers' assistance to perform their job by providing them "substance." Let's help them do their job.
I doubt it.
I've seen enough TB motion threads that most FTers with "I vote yes" types of comments in their posts really believe they are voting, while in reality, at least the the reality of TalkBoard, they can't.
The other thing about expressing one's opinions as a FTer in TalkBoard Topics Forum is that "I agree" & "+1" types of feedback actually doesn't help TBers base their decisions on their votes, unless:
1) the argument has been made clearly and/or established by other fellow FTers. Or
2) there's an almost unanimous "verdict" on the motion at hand.
The 9 TBers are not counting hands before they vote. They want to hear where you are coming from, with "substance." Does every proposal/suggestion threads here accomplish that? Sadly, no. That's why quite a few suggestion threads in TB Topics Forum fail to take off to the ground for TB motions.
This Iberia Forum motion thread, OTOH, has made it this far to be a motion. I don't know Iberia enough to provide any substance. That's why I want to make sure for those who are supportive of creating this new forum, or otherwise, can make a very good case before the voting ends on July 11.
The bottom line is FTers have no voting power. TBers do. And they need us FTers' assistance to perform their job by providing them "substance." Let's help them do their job.
Jul 2, 2011, 5:00 pm
#50
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Not convinced that an IB forum is required currently, but it is certainly one to wtach if the demand increases.
I agree it is a key oneworld member, but if there is limited demand...
Alternatively - is the absence of an IB forum a reason for few IB post? I do think there is creep into the BA forum.
I agree it is a key oneworld member, but if there is limited demand...
Alternatively - is the absence of an IB forum a reason for few IB post? I do think there is creep into the BA forum.
Jul 2, 2011, 5:16 pm
#51
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If that's the case, I would expect those posts would have been moved to their correct location.
Jul 2, 2011, 11:03 pm
#52
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Id like to see Iberia have its own forum as others have posted It is a major OW airline, and I do believe that traffic to the forum will grow if it is separated from BA. There are always specifics regarding schedules, hubs and airport questions, luggage allowances, connection times, and all kinds of service questions that are specific to a given airline even if they are part of an alliance or there are operating overlaps with other partners.
Jul 3, 2011, 12:23 am
#53
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I don't know why certain General Members who speak up in this motion thread "think" they are casting any vote.
Unless you are a TBer, you CANNOT vote on any TB motion.
I only wish there were more FTers who'd do their best to get familiar with how TalkBoard works. There's a sticky thread about TB voting already.
Please allow me to borrow an old post from another TB motion thread with highlights:
Just want to make sure we are on the same and correct page here.
Unless you are a TBer, you CANNOT vote on any TB motion.
I only wish there were more FTers who'd do their best to get familiar with how TalkBoard works. There's a sticky thread about TB voting already.
Please allow me to borrow an old post from another TB motion thread with highlights:
Just want to make sure we are on the same and correct page here.
Jul 3, 2011, 2:21 pm
#54
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I vote yes for a number of reasons.
One, sorting through all the One-World threads in order to find information particular to Iberia is extremely tedious.
Two, Having a seperate Forum will consolidate all future information and discussion into threads equal to other airlines on FT.
Three, I believe there is a greater interest and need for an Iberia Forum. To wit, many of us partook of the AA credit card offers and banked 200,000 miles or more per household. These miles are now available for use on Iberia. I myself have spent much time trying to find out out Iberia's reward system and would love to have a centralized area for information.
One, sorting through all the One-World threads in order to find information particular to Iberia is extremely tedious.
Two, Having a seperate Forum will consolidate all future information and discussion into threads equal to other airlines on FT.
Three, I believe there is a greater interest and need for an Iberia Forum. To wit, many of us partook of the AA credit card offers and banked 200,000 miles or more per household. These miles are now available for use on Iberia. I myself have spent much time trying to find out out Iberia's reward system and would love to have a centralized area for information.
Jul 3, 2011, 7:08 pm
#55
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I vote yes
Jul 3, 2011, 10:21 pm
#56
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I also am in favor of this as well.
Jul 4, 2011, 1:40 am
#57
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FTers are more than welcome to continue saying "I vote yes" but TBers are not counting heads nor hands here. That's my point. Yes, I am anal on this voting thingy.
Jul 4, 2011, 3:35 am
#58
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Sounds a bit flippant when you put it like that but it is very true. Spanish speaking IB passengers are too busy squeezing live chickens and televisions in the overhead bins to come to FT and talk about which seat has the nicest arm rests.
What is good for IB is also good for LA which constantly gets rejected by TalkBoard for its own forum. Major OneWorld partner, 4 million LanPass members etc. Operating airlines from 4 (or 5) countries, best alliance network in South America.
The Spanish speaking "thing" is also an equally good reason to give both airlines their own forum because they both have dire hispanic customer services and one would imagine that FT might fill the void and provide a place for frequent flyers of both airlines to exchange ideas and help out the non-regular FTers on OW awards or non frequent flyers. I'd say that's particularly pertinent now there is the tie-up with AA and IB code shares are being offered on the AA website alongside generous AAdvantage bonuses.
Completely subjective but Madrid this weekend has been brimming at the gills with Americans, more than British people even. So looks like Americans are indeed crossing the pond and making Spain a destination of choice. I'd say a good proportion of those people are flying at least 1 segment on IB
What is good for IB is also good for LA which constantly gets rejected by TalkBoard for its own forum. Major OneWorld partner, 4 million LanPass members etc. Operating airlines from 4 (or 5) countries, best alliance network in South America.
The Spanish speaking "thing" is also an equally good reason to give both airlines their own forum because they both have dire hispanic customer services and one would imagine that FT might fill the void and provide a place for frequent flyers of both airlines to exchange ideas and help out the non-regular FTers on OW awards or non frequent flyers. I'd say that's particularly pertinent now there is the tie-up with AA and IB code shares are being offered on the AA website alongside generous AAdvantage bonuses.
Completely subjective but Madrid this weekend has been brimming at the gills with Americans, more than British people even. So looks like Americans are indeed crossing the pond and making Spain a destination of choice. I'd say a good proportion of those people are flying at least 1 segment on IB
Jul 4, 2011, 4:59 am
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Owned by BA would be more accurate - I think it's administered as a separate programme under it's own trademark (AirMiles), but the company is a limited company owned by BA.
A very brief and easy google brings you to this, which should tell you all you ever wanted to know:
http://www.airmiles.co.uk/tertiary/aboutus.do
A very brief and easy google brings you to this, which should tell you all you ever wanted to know:
http://www.airmiles.co.uk/tertiary/aboutus.do
Jul 4, 2011, 8:26 am
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Owned by BA would be more accurate - I think it's administered as a separate programme under it's own trademark (AirMiles), but the company is a limited company owned by BA.
A very brief and easy google brings you to this, which should tell you all you ever wanted to know:
http://www.airmiles.co.uk/tertiary/aboutus.do
A very brief and easy google brings you to this, which should tell you all you ever wanted to know:
http://www.airmiles.co.uk/tertiary/aboutus.do
https://www.airmiles.ca/arrow/AboutUs
http://www.airmiles.nl/airmiles/default.asp
https://www.travelclub.es/
http://www.airmilesme.com/