Lounges at airports: LX vs. M&M list?

Old May 13, 09, 8:34 am
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Lounges at airports: LX vs. M&M list?

Hello everyone,

I've recently come across conflicting information as to what lounges are available at airports worldwide.

As you all know, there is the "Lounge Finder" on the Miles & More website:
http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...l=en&cid=18002

and then there is the list of lounges at swiss.com:
http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/services...worldwide.aspx

Take BCN (Barcelona) as an example, with an economy ticket, and I have FTL status. According to M&M website, there would be no lounge for FTL. However, according to the SWISS website, I could use the Spanair one.

Same thing with Miami and other airports...what's the deal? Which is right?

Thanks for your help!
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Old May 13, 09, 12:59 pm
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Hi,

there is a difference between LH and LX as FTL:
LH gains for FTL on LH operated flights only access to their own lounges or the LX and OS lounges.
LX handles this different: As FTL on a LX operated flight LX offers you a lounge at every (or most) airport, LX depart from. If there is no LH, LX or OS operated lounge, LX will invite you to a contract lounge. You'll get the voucher at the Check-In.

So the online guides from M&M and swiss are right. The M&M website describes the situation for FTLs on LH operated flights.

In BCN is no LH or LX operated lounge:
As FTL in LH economy --> no lounge
As FTL in LX economy --> contract lounge, in this case the spanair lounge.

Same e.g. for NRT: no LH or LX operated lounge:
As FTL in LH economy --> no lounge
As FTL in LX economy --> contract lounge, UA Red carpet club.

As FTL in economy LX is better choice (not only for lounges )

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Old May 13, 09, 3:31 pm
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Thanks for that! I didn't think there would be a difference, but it makes sense to me now. I'll be happy to use that to my advantage next time I'm flying LX in economy (this weekend!).

Thanks again for your quick reply! ^
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Old May 14, 09, 3:09 am
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Any idea why PVG gets no FTL lounge access?
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Old May 26, 09, 9:22 am
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Any idea why PVG gets no FTL lounge access?
I think the only lounge at PVG is the STAR GOLD lounge- hence no lounge access for SILVER.

One interesting lounge "quirk" that I have always really appreciated is that if you are flying LX from HKG in C or F the lounge they give you an invitation for is the Cathay Pacific Lounge (Wing or Pier as you prefer)- which are much nicer than the STAR options in my opinion...
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Old May 27, 09, 5:54 am
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I had no idea at all of these bonus advantages to flying LX Y over LH Y.

But are they specific to LX-branded cards, rather LH-branded ones?
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Old May 27, 09, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by IAN-UK View Post
I had no idea at all of these bonus advantages to flying LX Y over LH Y.

But are they specific to LX-branded cards, rather LH-branded ones?
No, they do not make any distinction between the different cards.
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Old May 27, 09, 2:47 pm
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No, they do not make any distinction between the different cards.
Actually they do.

LOT and AUA cards have less 'value' outside their homebase and higher value at their home base.

LX is better than LH in many other ways - I am presently trying to "relocate" to LX to have this advantage - especially as I am more often in ZRH right now.
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Old May 27, 09, 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by roundtheworld View Post
LOT and AUA cards have less 'value' outside their homebase and higher value at their home base.
I am surprised. What is it that makes the difference?
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Old May 28, 09, 12:29 am
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I am surprised. What is it that makes the difference?
In Zagreb, you can only access the OU-Lounge with C-Ticket or Star-Gold with Star-Alliance-Ticket. Only exception: AUA-Y-Ticket and AUA-Silver ........
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Whether you get an OS, LX or LH branded card solely depends on your country of residence and not on which airline you fly mostly. So I reject the notion that there is a different value to differently branded cards. Makes no economic sense. For example in the UK, LH is responsible for issuing cards, but I fly mostly LX. LX's actual ownership aside, am I worth more to LH, and less to LX, because my plastic shows LH's logo? No, the only reason is to respect local feelings (by not having a big German company's logo on a FF card in another airline's respective "market").
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Old May 28, 09, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by chumbawumba View Post
Only exception: AUA-Y-Ticket and AUA-Silver ........
Seriously? So AUA Y-Ticket and FTL-Card with LX or LH logo does not do it? That would really be absurd - and I don't believe it would be in the interest of Miles & More.
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Old May 29, 09, 2:35 am
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Seriously? So AUA Y-Ticket and FTL-Card with LX or LH logo does not do it? That would really be absurd - and I don't believe it would be in the interest of Miles & More.
But there's so much absurdity in Miles & More, I'd believe anything.

If a passenger flying across the Atlantic on an LH C-class ticket, on an LH flight number is thrown out of the FRA LH Arrival lounge because the flight was operated by UA ....
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Old May 29, 09, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by taigatrommel View Post
Same e.g. for NRT: no LH or LX operated lounge:
As FTL in LH economy --> no lounge
As FTL in LX economy --> contract lounge, UA Red carpet club.
Also NH lounge which most people prefer.
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Old May 29, 09, 3:28 pm
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Seriously? So AUA Y-Ticket and FTL-Card with LX or LH logo does not do it? That would really be absurd - and I don't believe it would be in the interest of Miles & More.
The prefix of an FTL-card is always LH9922... , no matter how the card is branded.

There is indeed a difference if you have an AUA-flight or a flight of another airline ex-ZAG. But the logo on the card doesn´t change anything. FTL is FTL, worldwide.

The irritating and annoying thing is that the M&M-lounge guide only applies for departures with LH and ignores the different rules for LX/OS/OU/JP/LO-flights...
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