SWISS Senses: Allegris for LX

Old Sep 14, 23, 7:23 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
BA F is for Londoners flying out of London. No self respecting F paying business traveller from ZRH will fly to LHR and undergo the horrid transit experience more than once.
I would, if the alternative is LH C through FRA (ok, from GVA not ZRH)...
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Old Sep 14, 23, 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by MichielR
I would, if the alternative is LH C through FRA (ok, from GVA not ZRH)...
If your only two options are to transfer in FRA or LHR, maybe it's time to take a good hard look at your life decisions that brought you to this point
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Old Sep 14, 23, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
BA F is for Londoners flying out of London. No self respecting F paying business traveller from ZRH will fly to LHR and undergo the horrid transit experience more than once.
Actually that is not their only client base, BA F attracts many connecting pax, i have done it multiple times & give me LHR any day of the week over FRA unless you have HON status

F is F & BA F much better than anything LHG has in J
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Old Sep 14, 23, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
If your only two options are to transfer in FRA or LHR, maybe it's time to take a good hard look at your life decisions that brought you to this point
They are not & EK will be picking up a lot of my business going forward, they have lots of F seats
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Old Sep 16, 23, 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
They are not & EK will be picking up a lot of my business going forward, they have lots of F seats
My gripe with EK, even in F (i only ever travelled F on them), is the lack of support once off the plane. Call centres - useless, immigration priority? - keep dreaming, IRROPs? -- no way they would help.
On other hand every single time i had IRROPs and transit issues with LH/LX they could not be more helpful. Sure i enjoy 500g of caviar on my EK F flights, but i would still rely on LX/LH in case of complex itineraries to small airports around europe and to help me if misconnect is even possible - like last week when i didnt miss the flight but LX offered me EK F rebooking just to reprotect me to DXB.
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Old Sep 16, 23, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by nufnuf77
My gripe with EK, even in F (i only ever travelled F on them), is the lack of support once off the plane. Call centres - useless, immigration priority? - keep dreaming, IRROPs? -- no way they would help.
On other hand every single time i had IRROPs and transit issues with LH/LX they could not be more helpful. Sure i enjoy 500g of caviar on my EK F flights, but i would still rely on LX/LH in case of complex itineraries to small airports around europe and to help me if misconnect is even possible - like last week when i didnt miss the flight but LX offered me EK F rebooking just to reprotect me to DXB.
Sure as HON the situation is different but 3 seats in F is no use to me going forward & EK Plat is easy with a few F trips & then they do take more care

& Wine onboard & F lounges at DXB, their J lounge at MAN is better than what Kaefer are doing in F at FRA
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Old Sep 16, 23, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
Sure as HON the situation is different but 3 seats in F is no use to me going forward & EK Plat is easy with a few F trips & then they do take more care

& Wine onboard & F lounges at DXB, their J lounge at MAN is better than what Kaefer are doing in F at FRA
MAN security reminds me of FRA terminal 1 security without priority though
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Old Sep 16, 23, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63
Sure as HON the situation is different but 3 seats in F is no use to me going forward & EK Plat is easy with a few F trips & then they do take more care

& Wine onboard & F lounges at DXB, their J lounge at MAN is better than what Kaefer are doing in F at FRA
So the food in the F lounges has gone bad? What about the schnitzel?
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Old Sep 22, 23, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by Kleffen
So the food in the F lounges has gone bad? What about the schnitzel?
FRA is much worse but still not terrible. they havent changed the menu for a while though and it's really not very imaginative.
MUC still top notch!
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Old Sep 22, 23, 12:18 pm
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I prefer Zurich over MUC over FRA over JFK over VIE … I have not yet been to the GVA one though …
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Old Sep 22, 23, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by LHSEN
I prefer Zurich over MUC over FRA over JFK over VIE I have not yet been to the GVA one though
MUC just edges ZRH because of the beverage offering for me, both are way ahead of FRA, i quite like the OS HON lounge, its kind of cute & i have also yet to experience GVA
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Old Oct 13, 23, 3:03 pm
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Today, I booked a flight for a business trip to SIN and DPS (yes, DPS) in 2 weeks. I was lucky, I secured the last available seat in F, but connecting in HKG instead of the nonstop (from ZRH) and one day earlier than I wanted to fly.
LX176 is sold out several days around my travel date and this is 2 weeks before departure.
What I want to say: with Allegris offering only 3 to 4 seats this will get even worse! It has been mentioned here on FT before. That's the reality.
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Old Oct 13, 23, 3:14 pm
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Many Asia routes seem busy, I was on LX180 to BKK recently and it was at F1 a good 4-5 weeks out from departure (and that route probably has less paid F bookings than SIN).

For some routes the new 3 seat cabin will surely result in lost revenue, I find it hard to believe that higher prices and hardly any awards will offset all that as some pax will likely look elsewhere.
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Old Oct 13, 23, 6:33 pm
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I suspect there's a background battle between Swiss and LH about how much F to offer. From lot of what LH does it seems that the mother feels F is a thing they don't want but have to have. LX on the other hand understands it as a central part of their offering.
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Old Oct 14, 23, 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
I suspect there's a background battle between Swiss and LH about how much F to offer. From lot of what LH does it seems that the mother feels F is a thing they don't want but have to have. LX on the other hand understands it as a central part of their offering.
It's unbelivable that this incompetent people at LH have always more influence at LX. There are sure some routes that have not very high F demand or almost not at all like YUL. Hence as a economicaly compromise I could have seen the A333 going forward offering 1 row of F however the A350 and B77W's absolutely would need 2 rows of F.
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