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Understanding fare rules & impact of stopover in ZRH
Hi all - I am sorry if this question is not worth a thread by itself, but didn't find a better place to post.
I was looking for flights from GRU to Switzerland/Italy later in June, and given outrageous prices in PE and C, I tried to experiment with F to see if any bargain was available (but that's also expensive). While doing so, I noticed something interesting and, for me, mysterious. Maybe someone here can explain why this is happening. Base case - round-trip search on Ita GRU-ZRH-MXP 21/06/2022 MXP-ZRH-GRU 01/07/2022 Approx. USD 6.700 GRU-ZRH books in F Searching flight using multi-city view on Ita GRU-ZRH 21/06 ZRH-MXP 22/06 or 23/06 MXP-ZRH-GRU 01/07 Approx. USD 4.700 GRU-ZRH books in A It seems like that when booking a multi-city flight with separate segments I am able to book the first flight (GRU-ZRH) in A, while when using the normal round-trip search the first flight only shows in F. The same happens when looking at Expertflyer. Lastly, I could also price the cheaper itinerary on OTA, so it seems that it is really available. Anyone knows how come this is happening? Base Case: Round-trip search https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cd4269e213.jpg Multi-city search https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c8fc78f3dc.jpg |
It is the married segment logic. Swiss does not want to sell A seats on gru-zrh-mxp, but is willing to do so on gru-zrh alone. Most likely as gru-mxp is cheaper than gru-zrh.
By adding the stopover, you benefit from both A availability and the cheap fare, at a cost of "wasted time" in Zurich. |
Originally Posted by fereke
(Post 34318377)
It is the married segment logic. Swiss does not want to sell A seats on gru-zrh-mxp, but is willing to do so on gru-zrh alone. Most likely as gru-mxp is cheaper than gru-zrh.
By adding the stopover, you benefit from both A availability and the cheap fare, at a cost of "wasted time" in Zurich. The fare, as is shown on the OP'S screenshot, is still a GRU-MXP in both cases. Just adding a few hours transit time within 24 hours of arrival is not creating a stopover. The reason why the connection to LX1628 around noon is more expensive than the connection to LX 1622 in the late afternoon is just that the noon flight is in higher demand than the evening flight. Just try to book ZRH - MXP isolated and you'll see a big price difference between noon and evening. So it's more like David (LX1628] who beats Goliath (LX93) and triggers the F instead of the A on the longhaul. |
Originally Posted by LoungeLizzard
(Post 34318553)
sorry, but no.
The reason why the connection to LX1628 around noon is more expensive than the connection to LX 1622 in the late afternoon is just that the noon flight is in higher demand than the evening flight. Just try to book ZRH - MXP isolated and you'll see a big price difference between noon and evening. So it's more like David (LX1628] who beats Goliath (LX93) and triggers the F instead of the A on the longhaul. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b85805c260.jpg |
...and in the mean time LX93 on June 21 seems to have sold out in First, so we"ll probably never find out.
if you could really buy the exact same flights at different prices on swiss.com depending on the search either via multi city or via directly entering origin and destination, then I'd write that off to the long list of LH IT shortfalls. |
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