Introducing aeroLOPA: A new portfolio of detailed Swiss cabin layout plans

Old Jan 8, 22, 9:23 am
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Arrow Introducing aeroLOPA: A new portfolio of detailed Swiss cabin layout plans

Hello esteemed FlyerTalkers. I'd like to welcome you to aeroLOPA. It's a project I started over a year ago initially for my own benefit but from May this year the project transformed into its own dedicated website.

AeroLOPA's mission is to create and share detailed seat diagrams that are as easy to access and read on a mobile phone as they are on a desktop computer. What it does not do is tell you where the best seats are, rather its aim is to provide all the necessary information so you can make that decision for yourself by weighing up the variables and options available to you. For the all chit chat, questions, answers, and debate, FT is still the place

I received a selection of Swiss seat maps just before Christmas and not being one to turn my back on a new challenge, I started the process of adding these to the aeroLOPA website. I will add previews below for your convenience

The creative process starts with a technical blueprint of each aircraft type. Factory standard galley, washroom, storage units are inserted, then the cabins are populated with seats and carefully space planned. It sounds simple, but to ensure accuracy scores of photos are scrutinised, cabin videos closely studied frame by frame allowing seat positions to be spot checked, adjusted as necessary and the diagrams fine tuned then ultimately signed off

I hope the cabin layout plans will also be useful to you. I will let you know when we can expect the Boeing 777 and Airbus A340 maps I have the timeline confirmed

Enjoy and let me know what's working and any areas you think need attention.

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Old Jan 8, 22, 9:30 am
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Swiss International Air Lines
Short-haul fleet


Airbus A220-100
Configured 125CM



Airbus A220-300
Configured 145CM



Airbus A320ceo
Configured 180CM



Airbus A320neo
Configured 180CM



Airbus A321ceo
Configured 219CM



Airbus A321neo
Configured 215CM
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Old Jan 8, 22, 9:33 am
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Airbus A330-300
Configured 8F 45J 183M



Airbus A340-300
Configured 8F 47J 168M



Boeing 777-300ER
Configured 8F 62J 24W 226M



Boeing 777-300ER
Configured 8F 62J 270M
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Old Jan 8, 22, 10:37 am
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Very cool and looking forward to the 777 and 340.
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This is praiseworthy and I hope it grows in both scale and scope. I hate SeatGuru and their cookie cutter inaccurate seat maps with a passion, so this would be a great alternative.
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Old Jan 8, 22, 7:18 pm
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Those are some high quality seatmaps! Very impressive. Although I do prefer the F seats they use on this website: https://www.zrh-spotter.ch/swiss-seat-maps.html Might also be helpful for cross-checking.

Will Edelweiss Air (A320&340) and Helvetic (E195s) seatmaps also be added? If I can help in any way please do let me know
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Old Jan 9, 22, 4:18 am
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Originally Posted by Nick Art
Those are some high quality seatmaps! Very impressive. Although I do prefer the F seats they use on this website: https://www.zrh-spotter.ch/swiss-seat-maps.html Might also be helpful for cross-checking.

Will Edelweiss Air (A320&340) and Helvetic (E195s) seatmaps also be added? If I can help in any way please do let me know
Thanks. I am a huge fan of the ZRH Spotter site. The seats presented on that site are a work of art - really impressive although the Swiss cabin layouts are not quite as accurate as those being produced on aeroLOPA. Edelweiss and Helvetic are not on my immediate workflow. I am concious there is a limit to the number of airlines I can cover, as each section needs to be managed/updated so I am trying not to bite more than I can chew.

The Boeing 777 seat maps have now been uploaded with previews added to post #3. The new 4 class layout will need further scrunity so that the changes between doors 3 and 4 are accurately represented
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Old Jan 9, 22, 6:32 am
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The A340-300 seat map has now been uploaded onto aeroLOPA. A preview has been added to post #3 above
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Old Jan 9, 22, 8:03 am
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Thank you very much Prospero!
The details are beautiful and even the windows appear to be in the correct position. A work of art!
Thanks also for adding the A340 and 777 seatmaps already.

Maybe it would be possible to add the row number 6 for the two center seats (6DG) on to clarify that row 7 is indeed mostly straight across on the 777 (Similar to rows 22 and 23 in economy), while on the A340, the first two center seats in business are also 6DG, but they are substantially further forward than 6A &K, and the last two center seats in business on the A340 are row 15 and not 14.

Swiss had seatmaps which where nearly as nice and useful as yours in the booking engine, they just lacked the color and did not have as much detail. LH IT has unfortunately enhanced those good maps away recently and replaced them by the really ugly, "we are so cheap"-attitude blobs, where one can neither see which are the good business seats, nor the position of the windows. Even Deutsche Bahn does it better than LH & LX.
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Old Jan 9, 22, 8:18 am
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These are awesome. Great find.

Originally Posted by Nick Art
Those are some high quality seatmaps! Very impressive. Although I do prefer the F seats they use on this website: https://www.zrh-spotter.ch/swiss-seat-maps.html Might also be helpful for cross-checking.

Will Edelweiss Air (A320&340) and Helvetic (E195s) seatmaps also be added? If I can help in any way please do let me know
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Old Jan 9, 22, 8:19 am
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I love this.

Originally Posted by Prospero
The A340-300 seat map has now been uploaded onto aeroLOPA. A preview has been added to post #3 above
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I've finally got the chance to look at them in more detail and I am all the more impressed. I love how detailed and accurate they are The difference between NEO and CEO is cleverly solved. Love the subtle difference of A330 seats and A340 seats, with the A340 J seats being more similar to the 777 C seats (as they actually are IRL).

Some very minor details I noticed:
- Sometimes the last row is indicated, sometimes it isn't. I think it would be beneficial to also have them on the A330 and A3340.
- The seat letters are missing on the A321neo
- The Business and Economy Indicator on the A221 and A223 are off by one row
For the A340:
- Row 6, Letter K is missing on the J seat
- Maybe indicate Row 15 J seats as now they look like they are part of row 14. I see LoungeLizard has already mentioned this.

I can't stress how amazing those seatmaps are! The quality is amazing.
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Old Jan 10, 22, 3:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Nick Art
I've finally got the chance to look at them in more detail and I am all the more impressed. I love how detailed and accurate they are The difference between NEO and CEO is cleverly solved. Love the subtle difference of A330 seats and A340 seats, with the A340 J seats being more similar to the 777 C seats (as they actually are IRL).

Some very minor details I noticed:
- Sometimes the last row is indicated, sometimes it isn't. I think it would be beneficial to also have them on the A330 and A3340.
- The seat letters are missing on the A321neo
- The Business and Economy Indicator on the A221 and A223 are off by one row
For the A340:
- Row 6, Letter K is missing on the J seat
- Maybe indicate Row 15 J seats as now they look like they are part of row 14. I see LoungeLizard has already mentioned this.

I can't stress how amazing those seatmaps are! The quality is amazing.
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I think I managed to pick up most of your comments. Thanks for pointing these out.

Cabin and seat descriptions have now been added to the A330, A340, and 773 seat maps
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Old Jan 11, 22, 6:29 am
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On the A220 series, you have chosen to mark the business seats as "A" seats, which is correct for row 1 but with white lines in the following rows, leaving the C seats unmarked:



Wouldn't it be more accurate to show C seats in the even rows? I realize it's a nit-picky detail, but since this site seems to be about getting the details right, I thought I'd mention it.



Nice work though!
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Old Jan 11, 22, 6:49 am
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Good point bawm

I made a few tweaks to the lettering and antimacassar positions


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