Introducing aeroLOPA: A new portfolio of detailed Swiss cabin layout plans
Feb 23, 23, 4:23 pm
#16
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The new four class A340-300 has joined the AeroLOPA portfolio.
Airbus A340-300
8F 42J 21W 144M configuration
Airbus A340-300
8F 42J 21W 144M configuration
Feb 24, 23, 10:50 am
#17
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Well done.
Even SWISS don't seem to have published a proper seat map for the PE converted A340-300 aircraft yet.
It's interesting that despite installing 3 rows of PE seats, there are still 5 rows (3 PE + 2 E) in that forward cabin, the same as the number of economy rows that were there previously.
Even SWISS don't seem to have published a proper seat map for the PE converted A340-300 aircraft yet.
It's interesting that despite installing 3 rows of PE seats, there are still 5 rows (3 PE + 2 E) in that forward cabin, the same as the number of economy rows that were there previously.
Feb 24, 23, 12:06 pm
#18
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Well done.
Even SWISS don't seem to have published a proper seat map for the PE converted A340-300 aircraft yet.
It's interesting that despite installing 3 rows of PE seats, there are still 5 rows (3 PE + 2 E) in that forward cabin, the same as the number of economy rows that were there previously.
Even SWISS don't seem to have published a proper seat map for the PE converted A340-300 aircraft yet.
It's interesting that despite installing 3 rows of PE seats, there are still 5 rows (3 PE + 2 E) in that forward cabin, the same as the number of economy rows that were there previously.
I really love those seatmaps on aeroLOPA and very much hope that LX will buy those and use them instead of the soooooo careless, ugly, cheap-charly seatmaps they downgraded themselves to.
Feb 24, 23, 12:49 pm
#19
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Thank you, LoungeLizzard. I hadn't noticed the last business row had been removed and the bulkhead brought forward.
Yes, the LX seat maps are not anything to be proud of, and SWISS gives few hard facts about the extra legroom seats that are being sold for twice the price of the preferred seats whose sole benefit seems to be that you get out of the aircraft a little sooner.
Yes, the LX seat maps are not anything to be proud of, and SWISS gives few hard facts about the extra legroom seats that are being sold for twice the price of the preferred seats whose sole benefit seems to be that you get out of the aircraft a little sooner.
Mar 1, 23, 12:45 pm
#20
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Hey - feedback on the website - would be easier to navigate if there was a landing page for each airline. If I scroll down the list of airlines to Swiss, then I click there, it expands to show the aircraft type, and then I click on one, where it takes me to a landing page for that aircraft type. If I want to see a different aircraft type, I have to scroll down the long list of airlines again back to Swiss. Would be much easier just to hit "back" two times to go to the Swiss landing page and then choose another aircraft. The scrolling is a pain now that you have so many airlines covered.
Aug 18, 23, 2:01 pm
#21
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Ive now (finally) added the Edelweiss A340-300 seat map to the portfolio based on a 27J 287M configuration whereby the front cabin accommodates 76 extra legroom Economy class seats.
According to Wikipedia, all five aircraft are configured this way. However, planespotters.net has HB-JMC configured differently - as 29J 271M.
Can anyone confirm which of these sources is correct?
A preview of the seat map is provided below.
The Edelweiss A320 and Helvetic Embraer maps will follow very soon. I promise
Aug 19, 23, 1:05 am
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See, you ask and eighteen months later you shall receive 🙂
I’ve now (finally) added the Edelweiss A340-300 seat map to the portfolio based on a 27J 287M configuration whereby the front cabin accommodates 76 extra legroom Economy class seats.
According to Wikipedia, all five aircraft are configured this way. However, planespotters.net has HB-JMC configured differently - as 29J 271M.
Can anyone confirm which of these sources is correct?
A preview of the seat map is provided below.
The Edelweiss A320 and Helvetic Embraer maps will follow very soon. I promise
I’ve now (finally) added the Edelweiss A340-300 seat map to the portfolio based on a 27J 287M configuration whereby the front cabin accommodates 76 extra legroom Economy class seats.
According to Wikipedia, all five aircraft are configured this way. However, planespotters.net has HB-JMC configured differently - as 29J 271M.
Can anyone confirm which of these sources is correct?
A preview of the seat map is provided below.
The Edelweiss A320 and Helvetic Embraer maps will follow very soon. I promise
Means 29 premium passengers will have to queue behind the 76
- This will be a "premium" experience so typical for the sad country Switzerland is, where all is about mediocrity.And yes, dear Prospero, your seatmaps are GREAT! Thank you.
Aug 19, 23, 2:22 am
#23
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What an utterly horrible configuration with de facto shared bathrooms between "extra legroom" seats and C (I guess they can not "concentrate" the 76 "faux luxe" cattle to the single front lavatory.)
Means 29 premium passengers will have to queue behind the 76- This will be a "premium" experience so typical for the sad country Switzerland is, where all is about mediocrity.
Means 29 premium passengers will have to queue behind the 76
- This will be a "premium" experience so typical for the sad country Switzerland is, where all is about mediocrity.
but having flown in C on this configuration several times in the past few years, I never had a problem with bathroom access - I do actually think the Eco Max passengers all use the front lav.Great work as always, Prospero. I am not aware of a WK A340 not operating in this config. My +1 flew YUL-ZRH on the WK-operated LX87 this month and got op-uped to Eco Max at the front, so it was this config too.
Aug 19, 23, 3:43 am
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Sep 10, 23, 7:31 pm
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Sep 11, 23, 1:24 am
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I believe the difference in configuration comes from the fact that HB-JMC had received the refurbished LX cabin just recently and as such WK just kept those seats and only did a minimum to convert it into a WK layout (remove F and first 2J seats and replace with Economy Max and remove Premium Economy). As such I am not sure if the galley was touched, but it appears that the Business seats are in the same layout as they are in the LX A343 (and also still the very same type as LX uses and not the same as WK has on the other A343, as seen by the extended sidetable in the above picture).
Sep 11, 23, 6:44 am
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The seatmap and comments also made me realise how lucky I am to mostly fly LX F and C, where a total of only 17 seats (8 F + 9 Stbli C) + storage cabinets between C and F) occupy the same space as 76 Y seats on Edelweiss!
Sep 11, 23, 7:11 am
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76 passengers potentially trespassing to the C toilets
and the same passengers who are sold those seats believing they are "extra", just below premium Y 
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These kind of things work with the mediocrity accepting Swiss clientele. It's like the glass of Prosecco at CHF 10 or more with a bottle costing under CHF 5. Ignorance.
76 passengers potentially trespassing to the C toilets
and the same passengers who are sold those seats believing they are "extra", just below premium Y . These kind of things work with the mediocrity accepting Swiss clientele. It's like the glass of Prosecco at CHF 10 or more with a bottle costing under CHF 5. Ignorance.
Sep 11, 23, 10:55 am
#29
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I have two flights on WK from YUL in 5 weeks, will report back on all this mediocrity 
Honnestly, I am like a camel, so I only use the WC once per flight usually. The seats look to be the updated versions not the old 330 style, so even better. My expectations are quite low. I have some flights in January and the usual 330 is back on duty.
Honnestly, I am like a camel, so I only use the WC once per flight usually. The seats look to be the updated versions not the old 330 style, so even better. My expectations are quite low. I have some flights in January and the usual 330 is back on duty.
