Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Swiss moves from JFK T4 to T1

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 4, 2021, 5:43 am
  #16  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,919
For those wondering about the F/HON side of the lounge, it’s relatively small and when F is full or you have HONs, it feels a bit tight. For reference, there are more dining tables at the LH lounge (F/HON floor) in T1 but the LX lounge has more armchairs etc.

Staff is friendly. There is a la carte dining but the food is so so. Nothing to get too excited about and I guess it will be over in February.

Amplifying what I said above, how they are going to fit all the F/HONs in the LH lounge Wine and Dine floor is unclear—unless they say “screw them” or not offer F on LH from JFK for the foreseeable future. Or not reopen the F floor.
NYC1 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 8:44 am
  #17  
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London | Sydney
Programs: LH HON, QF CL, SQ TPPS, AF Plat, VS Gold, VA Plat, EK Gold, HH Diamond, WoH Globalist, Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,528
I would just like this acknowledged from the JFK Lounge Renovation thread from Oct 19, and all the usual doubters with my update posts 😂😂

Originally Posted by vantage03
Apparently next year Delta is taking over the whole terminal so the Swiss lounge will be closed indefinitely. If that’s the case, I can’t see them investing a lot in the F&B until then.
MichielR likes this.
vantage03 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 11:17 am
  #18  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Winston Salem, NC USA
Posts: 1,074
The Swiss First and Business lounges at ORD T 5 have apparently closed permanently as well. Perhaps Swiss in mot interested in operating lounges anymore in the US.
SkyTeam777 likes this.
trvlr70 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 11:32 am
  #19  
DTS
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SEA
Programs: AS 75k, A3 Gold, AC 25k, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,043
Originally Posted by trvlr70
The Swiss First and Business lounges at ORD T 5 have apparently closed permanently as well. Perhaps Swiss in mot interested in operating lounges anymore in the US.
That doesn't feel like a big loss.
DTS is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 1:52 pm
  #20  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,919
Originally Posted by trvlr70
The Swiss First and Business lounges at ORD T 5 have apparently closed permanently as well. Perhaps Swiss in mot interested in operating lounges anymore in the US.
I wouldn't go that far. Moving LX at JFK to be in the same terminal as LH and SN makes sense. The real issue is that the lounge at T1 isn't big enough. Also, security at T1 sucks most of the time and there is often "congestion" in terms of the planes coming in and out. I wonder how much it cost to redo the lounge in T4 ...
NYC1 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 2:02 pm
  #21  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: NC
Programs: AAConciergeKey/1MM, DL DM/2 MM, UA Gold,Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 11,967
Maybe at least AZ will move to T4 and LX can take their lounge space?
SkyTeam777 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 2:36 pm
  #22  
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,162
The new terminal one in JFK will probably solve the issue and Skyteam partners moving to T4 will relieve things in the interim. Note that LX didn’t say that they will offer the LH lounge in T1 in the quoted email.
oliver2002 is offline  
Old Dec 5, 2021, 7:20 pm
  #23  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,919
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The new terminal one in JFK will probably solve the issue and Skyteam partners moving to T4 will relieve things in the interim. Note that LX didn’t say that they will offer the LH lounge in T1 in the quoted email.
The new terminal won’t be there until 2025, at best. So that’s 3 years +.

I didn’t get the email but it would be odd if they didn’t use the LH lounge. The other options are the AF, KE and AZ (not sure what’s going on these days with that one) lounges and a private one called Primeclass. We’ll see. LH needs to open the 2nd and 3rd floor in any case!
NYC1 is offline  
Old Dec 7, 2021, 12:08 am
  #24  
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DUS
Programs: LH HON
Posts: 764
Yes, it is confirmed that Swiss will use the joint check-in with LH and also use the LH lounge from Feb. 1st. Handling agent is and will be Hallmark.
Very bad, that the best LX station will disappear soon.
shipsmail is offline  
Old Dec 7, 2021, 7:58 am
  #25  
Moderator: SAS
Hyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: BLL & CPH & ZRH
Programs: LX, SK EBD (*G)
Posts: 3,152
Originally Posted by shipsmail
Yes, it is confirmed that Swiss will use the joint check-in with LH and also use the LH lounge from Feb. 1st. Handling agent is and will be Hallmark.
Very bad, that the best LX station will disappear soon.
It's a shame really.
Nick Art is offline  
Old Dec 11, 2021, 1:41 pm
  #26  
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Programs: LH SENATOR
Posts: 1,038
The move to T1 would only make sense if at least the equivalent of flights from other airlines will move to other terminals as otherwise it will be the same mess as when LX moved the last time. Hence, this move should have only happend after the new Terminal 1 will be fully operational and has the needed extra capacity.
LXA350 is offline  
Old Dec 11, 2021, 4:54 pm
  #27  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: NYC -- UA 1K; SPG Platinum; HH Diamond.
Posts: 2,919
Originally Posted by LXA350
The move to T1 would only make sense if at least the equivalent of flights from other airlines will move to other terminals as otherwise it will be the same mess as when LX moved the last time. Hence, this move should have only happend after the new Terminal 1 will be fully operational and has the needed extra capacity.
Absolutely right and those airlines aren’t moving in a couple months. Also, the other airlines (non-star alliance) moving doesn’t solve the LH lounge overcrowding issue. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
NYC1 is offline  
Old Dec 12, 2021, 5:23 pm
  #28  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 32,028
ORD will be fine if LX moves over to join UA/LH/NH, but I was really looking forward to using the new LX JFK lounge in JFK. Depending how LH brings back F service to JFK there might be enough room, but still disappointing. Any news for SQ and other *A airlines?
cfischer is offline  
Old Dec 13, 2021, 9:47 am
  #29  
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA ExecPlat; AF Gold; UA GS; Hyatt L. Globalist; Marriott Plat; Hilton Diamond; National EE
Posts: 6,160
The T1 security situation pretty much sucks. There is no Clear and no real Precheck in my experience. Along with the lounge situation, this unfortunately significantly reduces Swiss's competitive advantage at T4.
Buster CT1K is offline  
Old Dec 13, 2021, 10:49 am
  #30  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Zurich / Europe / New York
Programs: LH, BA, AA
Posts: 1,307
That‘s very true - T1 has neither !!
LHSEN is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.