Zimmerli pajamas closest to the LX F version?
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Nope. The closest is “from Zimmerli of Switzerland,” but it still isn’t clear that they make it. And the rest of the verbiage is irrelevant it’s more about brand history than it is about the particular garments provided.
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Clear to me anyhow, that they are made by whoever makes the regular Zimmerli garments
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The current ones are certainly cheaper to construct. They no longer have collars or buttons, for instance. And there are small details where you can tell cost has been cut.
I do like the pyjamas though. But it’s easy to like 100% cotton when it’s brand new and ready to wear. After a few dozen washes though and it’s indistinguishable.
As to whether it’s better than the others, I don’t have enough of a sample of other airlines. Don’t think it’s vastly superior to LH. Definitely better than AF P’s, which resembles nylon sports jerseys more than anything else.
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LX's pjs do not mention "handmade in Switzerland". I will have to check whether the bought one display the claim that the pj is handmade in Switzerland.
To answer to Sophia, the LX's pj' have a weave that is the same for men and women. I do not believe that it could/should be finer for men. And, the weave appears similar to the weave of my bought zim pj.
With respect to the tailoring, it never came to my mind to associate the words taylor and a man's pj.
To answer to Sophia, the LX's pj' have a weave that is the same for men and women. I do not believe that it could/should be finer for men. And, the weave appears similar to the weave of my bought zim pj.
With respect to the tailoring, it never came to my mind to associate the words taylor and a man's pj.
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I’m not actually sure the tag proves that either. We don’t know who makes the garments so it’s difficult, new or old, so it’s difficult to say they’re the same.
The current ones are certainly cheaper to construct. They no longer have collars or buttons, for instance. And there are small details where you can tell cost has been cut.
I do like the pyjamas though. But it’s easy to like 100% cotton when it’s brand new and ready to wear. After a few dozen washes though and it’s indistinguishable.
As to whether it’s better than the others, I don’t have enough of a sample of other airlines. Don’t think it’s vastly superior to LH. Definitely better than AF P’s, which resembles nylon sports jerseys more than anything else.
The current ones are certainly cheaper to construct. They no longer have collars or buttons, for instance. And there are small details where you can tell cost has been cut.
I do like the pyjamas though. But it’s easy to like 100% cotton when it’s brand new and ready to wear. After a few dozen washes though and it’s indistinguishable.
As to whether it’s better than the others, I don’t have enough of a sample of other airlines. Don’t think it’s vastly superior to LH. Definitely better than AF P’s, which resembles nylon sports jerseys more than anything else.
Mine have a button on the breast pocket & the lack of a collar doesn’t mean it’s cheaper since we were all told that the special edition given out on old A340 F were superior & they didn’t have a collar.
Zimmerli LX PJ’s are vastly superior to LH Van Laack IMO
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I own some Zimmerli underwear and the tag clearly says "Made in Switzerland". On my LX F PJs, there is no such statement.
So... they might be made by or for Zimmerli, but probably not in Switzerland.
So... they might be made by or for Zimmerli, but probably not in Switzerland.
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Just checked several different generations of LX PJs and it either says "Zimmerli for SWISS First" or just "Zimmerli", but not where they were made.
Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.
One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.
One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
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Just checked several different generations of LX PJs and it either says "Zimmerli for SWISS First" or just "Zimmerli", but not where they were made.
Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.
One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.
One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
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It’s just a fact. You look at the language and nothing states that’s it’s manufactured by zimmerli. If anything I find it suspicious that they haven’t gone out their way to make it clear, if it was in fact made by zimmerli.
Linguistics aside, i don’t think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.
and there’s nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what he’s getting in the cabin, unless he’s a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
Linguistics aside, i don’t think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.
and there’s nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what he’s getting in the cabin, unless he’s a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
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It’s just a fact. You look at the language and nothing states that’s it’s manufactured by zimmerli. If anything I find it suspicious that they haven’t gone out their way to make it clear, if it was in fact made by zimmerli.
Linguistics aside, i don’t think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.
and there’s nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what he’s getting in the cabin, unless he’s a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
Linguistics aside, i don’t think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.
and there’s nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what he’s getting in the cabin, unless he’s a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
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