Zimmerli pajamas closest to the LX F version?

Old Jan 23, 20, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by chris63 View Post
Seems clear to me that they are Ďrealí Zimmerli pyjamas

Nope. The closest is ďfrom Zimmerli of Switzerland,Ē but it still isnít clear that they make it. And the rest of the verbiage is irrelevant itís more about brand history than it is about the particular garments provided.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 6:49 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
Nope. The closest is ďfrom Zimmerli of Switzerland,Ē but it still isnít clear that they make it. And the rest of the verbiage is irrelevant itís more about brand history than it is about the particular garments provided.
Clear to me anyhow, that they are made by whoever makes the regular Zimmerli garments
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Old Jan 23, 20, 6:55 am
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Clear to me anyhow, that they are made by whoever makes the regular Zimmerli garments
Iím not actually sure the tag proves that either. We donít know who makes the garments so itís difficult, new or old, so itís difficult to say theyíre the same.

The current ones are certainly cheaper to construct. They no longer have collars or buttons, for instance. And there are small details where you can tell cost has been cut.

I do like the pyjamas though. But itís easy to like 100% cotton when itís brand new and ready to wear. After a few dozen washes though and itís indistinguishable.

As to whether itís better than the others, I donít have enough of a sample of other airlines. Donít think itís vastly superior to LH. Definitely better than AF Pís, which resembles nylon sports jerseys more than anything else.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 7:00 am
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LX's pjs do not mention "handmade in Switzerland". I will have to check whether the bought one display the claim that the pj is handmade in Switzerland.

To answer to Sophia, the LX's pj' have a weave that is the same for men and women. I do not believe that it could/should be finer for men. And, the weave appears similar to the weave of my bought zim pj.

With respect to the tailoring, it never came to my mind to associate the words taylor and a man's pj.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
Iím not actually sure the tag proves that either. We donít know who makes the garments so itís difficult, new or old, so itís difficult to say theyíre the same.

The current ones are certainly cheaper to construct. They no longer have collars or buttons, for instance. And there are small details where you can tell cost has been cut.

I do like the pyjamas though. But itís easy to like 100% cotton when itís brand new and ready to wear. After a few dozen washes though and itís indistinguishable.

As to whether itís better than the others, I donít have enough of a sample of other airlines. Donít think itís vastly superior to LH. Definitely better than AF Pís, which resembles nylon sports jerseys more than anything else.
Well, Iím convinced by the tag wording & that itís good sense for the brand to maintain its reputation.

Mine have a button on the breast pocket & the lack of a collar doesnít mean itís cheaper since we were all told that the special edition given out on old A340 F were superior & they didnít have a collar.

Zimmerli LX PJís are vastly superior to LH Van Laack IMO
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Old Jan 23, 20, 8:35 am
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I own some Zimmerli underwear and the tag clearly says "Made in Switzerland". On my LX F PJs, there is no such statement.

So... they might be made by or for Zimmerli, but probably not in Switzerland.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:01 am
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Just checked several different generations of LX PJs and it either says "Zimmerli for SWISS First" or just "Zimmerli", but not where they were made.

Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.

One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by airoli View Post
I own some Zimmerli underwear and the tag clearly says "Made in Switzerland". On my LX F PJs, there is no such statement.

So... they might be made by or for Zimmerli, but probably not in Switzerland.
Itís a shame we are unable to ask @SwissInternationalAirLines , the former lurker, for clarification, maybe they were SWISSPORTED away, a painful process, I imagine.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:15 am
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Nothing Chris63 posted proves that zimmerli actually makes the pyjamas, unfortunately. If the verbiage satisfies his standards, they must be low standards :-)
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by worldclubber View Post
Just checked several different generations of LX PJs and it either says "Zimmerli for SWISS First" or just "Zimmerli", but not where they were made.

Anyway, I am not sure how important it is whether they are made in Switzerland or not, and how many Swiss people would be involved in the manufacturing process if they were.

One of our BMWs is made in the United States, but as long as the quality is fine ...
i donít care that theyíre made in Switzerland or made by zimmerli. I just am pretty sure neither is the case.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
Nothing Chris63 posted proves that zimmerli actually makes the pyjamas, unfortunately. If the verbiage satisfies his standards, they must be low standards :-)


Keep going, thatís very mild for you
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
i donít care that theyíre made in Switzerland or made by zimmerli. I just am pretty sure neither is the case.
Pretty sure, based on what , exactly ?
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:27 am
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Itís just a fact. You look at the language and nothing states thatís itís manufactured by zimmerli. If anything I find it suspicious that they havenít gone out their way to make it clear, if it was in fact made by zimmerli.

Linguistics aside, i donít think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.

and thereís nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what heís getting in the cabin, unless heís a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by sophialite View Post
Itís just a fact. You look at the language and nothing states thatís itís manufactured by zimmerli. If anything I find it suspicious that they havenít gone out their way to make it clear, if it was in fact made by zimmerli.

Linguistics aside, i donít think it makes economic sense for Swiss to buy pyjamas manufactured by zimmerli as opposed to licensing it. We also have evidence that LH Group does this broadly for the other amenities they offer, including in F.

and thereís nothing wrong with this btw. If OP wants zimmerli just buy zimmerli. Odds are that whatever he buys off the shelf will be better than what heís getting in the cabin, unless heís a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
OP, likes the LX Zimmerli as do I, that part must have washed over you.
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Old Jan 23, 20, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by chris63 View Post
OP, likes the LX Zimmerli as do I, that part must have washed over you.
as I stated at the bottom

unless heís a particularly big fan of draw string trousers and navy blue.
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