miamiflyer8

Seems to be different from LH then who gives you access to ALL of their lounges in their system minus the FCT during your arrival day assuming you can physically reach it.

YuropFlyer

That would be something very new to me..

Unless LX has changed the rules very recently, you gain access to the FCL when arriving in ZRH with a same-day LX F boarding pass. No matter if connection or ending in ZRH.

I had access to the FCL when finishing my trip in ZRH. No problem at all. Even once 8hrs after landing.

OP can just stay airside when arriving in ZRH. There is no boarding pass check, you simply pass a security check in Dock E on your way to the FCL E, where he'll arrive anyway (better than FCL A imho) - they don't check boarding passes at the security check.

miamiflyer8

Yep, I've never heard about the rule changing with LX


Good to know about the transit security, would've thought a bp is required. Makes sense as not many people would voluntarily go airside on arrival.

andywaw

Perhaps I am wrong here.
So assuming an F flight with carry on only and staying airside, you can stay in FCL until they close, upon your arrival in F?

miamiflyer8

Exactly.

I don't see how luggage is relevant in this situation as one can simply go to baggage claim or the baggage office and pick it up later on.

andywaw

I don't want to leave my bags unattended or look for them all over the place. Just me.

YuropFlyer

LX usually checks through luggage overnight, so unless you need your checkin luggage in ZRH, you'd not have to worry about it.

And while I _usually_ happily advise people to visit the city of Zürich, there can definitely be situations when going downtown isn't really the greatest option. Say, a 8pm arrival in winter. Don't having warm clothes readily available (when you connect SIN to GRU in ZRH..) in January. Generally bad weather (12C and perpetual rain in June isn't that much fun either). Having been enough in Zürich but no local friends, an early morning departure. etc. etc.
Plenty of reasons why dinner at the FCL followed by some proper sleep in an airport hotel is the better choice than heading into the city.

Now, if you arrive 2pm and depart 1pm next day on a sunny spring to autumn day, I'd be pressed hard to recomment the FCL to you. Maybe a glas of champagne, but then off to the city.

andywaw

Thanks miamiflyer8 and Yuropflyer for clearing that up! ^

okrogius

Thanks, insightful answers as always. FCL access as long as you can reach the lounge on same calendar day, irrespective of departing or not. And overnight changes access, even if overnight is the only way to have that connection on Swiss.

Nick Art

All of the above are wrong.
You literally get picked up at the plane and driven to the private passport control where you actually enter the airside on your way to the baggage claim without them actually having you go through security.
If you, however, say you want to visit the lounge they will check you at the security check point that‘s right next to it. (only when arriving unclean) (Nothing is stopping you from not saying that and visiting the lounge anyway without going through security though.). Same day arrival certainly entitles you to visit the lounge.

The next day as correctly stated no access will be granted.
Yes, except why why one would do that? I get it for having lunch and a shower...
And bags have nothing to do with it, I always access the FCL on arrival and they just keep the bags for you at the counter. No searching needed as they will be right in front of the counter with the big nice friendly letters „First Class“ and „HON Circle“, also they will have a prominent orange and violett HON priority tag and frankly Zurich airport is not a place where you have to search through hordes of lost baggage lying around all over the place.

I am 99% certain it is allowed and so according to the rules, but only if the ticket is on the lx codeshare. And even then there have been discussions that with it the limo ride seems not to be included since sq won‘t pay for it? We hade this discussion on the vielfliegertreff I think.

And now I see Yuropflyer beat me to it.

Nick Art

It doesn‘t matter if it‘s an overnight, if you arrive on LX F you have access to the FCL on the day of your arrival. Period.

sophialite

You don’t have to use security at the private passport control if you are arriving from certain cities. IIRC didn’t have to it from JFK, SFO, ORD or LAX. But I did have to do it for JNB.

miamiflyer8

Because under EU standard which CH uses too considers the USA and Singapore to be clean destinations.

andywaw

What about trips on different tickets? Coming back to my situation described in post #101

All departures/arrivals on the same day.
One ticket: LX (F) HKG-ZRH-ARN
Continue on another LH (P) ticket: ARN-FRA-WAW
If I understand it correctly, in the afternoon/evening at FCL (in ZRH or FRA as in my trip) I only show my same day early morning LX F arriving boarding pass and it is enough to get access? And they do not need to know/question/mind on what ticket I will be actually travelling at that time?

I'm asking because both LH and LX rules now state: "Guests have access to the First Class lounges, provided the whole journey is booked in First Class".
So, in my two-tickets situation does this rule or "If you arrive on LX F you have access to the FCL on the day of your arrival." apply?

Nick Art

You won't have access on FRA, since your ticket didn't route through there. If you fly ARN-ZRH-WAW you will have access to the FCL based on your morning arrival.
However, the other way around it has been possible to access the ZRH FCL on a LH F ticket that didn't route through ZRH, but since they changed the wording this isn't really working anymore. (Or at least I have not tried yet)

If you fly HKG-FRA-MUC-ARN on a F ticket you will have access to the FCL in FRA and MUC.
But based on the new rules NOT in ZRH. (Although that used to work when I did it last September, sadly they changed the wording).