SWISS / Edelweiss New routes and changes
Feb 2, 2019, 7:57 am
#151
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SCL
Wishful thinking: SCL back from Swissair times, why not via GIG (scrapping the obsolete WK). LH group does not fly to Chile and GRU and EZE flights are full.
Asia and the Middle East are overrated, North America increasingly unfriendly and South America the future trend, business and leisure wise.
Asia and the Middle East are overrated, North America increasingly unfriendly and South America the future trend, business and leisure wise.
Feb 2, 2019, 8:03 am
#152
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Feb 2, 2019, 12:30 pm
#153
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Feb 2, 2019, 1:39 pm
#154
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Location: BLL & CPH & ZRH
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Feb 3, 2019, 12:21 pm
#156
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Yes: https://www.flughafen-zuerich.ch/~/m...tionhy2018.pdf
It's probably higher if you look only at LX in ZRH.
It's probably higher if you look only at LX in ZRH.
Feb 4, 2019, 12:37 am
#157
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ICN is now officially the favorite new LX destination for SWISS CEO Thomas Klühr. Decision to be expected early this summer but no comment on a second new long haul destination:
Aerotelegraph Interview mit Thomas Klühr / 04.02.2019
Wir werden voraussichtlich im Frühsommer 2019 eine Entscheidung fällen. Aktuell ist Seoul unser Favorit. Das ist aber der aktuelle Stand und kann sich noch ändern.
Aerotelegraph Interview mit Thomas Klühr / 04.02.2019
Feb 4, 2019, 10:19 am
#159
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ICN is now officially the favorite new LX destination for SWISS CEO Thomas Klühr. Decision to be expected early this summer but no comment on a second new long haul destination:
Aerotelegraph Interview mit Thomas Klühr / 04.02.2019
Aerotelegraph Interview mit Thomas Klühr / 04.02.2019
Feb 5, 2019, 12:46 am
#160
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I strongly believe if LX to add a new intercontinental destination, it will be toward the other side of the Atlantic: IAD or SEA @:-)
As for ICN I doubt it is going to be a profitable destination for LX.
As for ICN I doubt it is going to be a profitable destination for LX.
Feb 5, 2019, 9:44 am
#162
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Why are they looking at destinations that LH (and OS/SN) already serve? Unless there is a huge amount of premium point to point traffic, destinations such as IAD (and ICN) are already well served.
Is there an opportunity to reinstate to some SE Asian destinations that are no longer served? For example, by switching some routes between LX and LH, such as LH going back to KUL, CGK or SGN and LX taking over one of LHs routes to free up the airframe? Then I could see ICN work.
Is there an opportunity to reinstate to some SE Asian destinations that are no longer served? For example, by switching some routes between LX and LH, such as LH going back to KUL, CGK or SGN and LX taking over one of LHs routes to free up the airframe? Then I could see ICN work.
Feb 5, 2019, 12:58 pm
#163
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But take a popular destination such as IAD. If the network planners feel that there is enough demand for that route, they can plan a daily flight from each ZRH, VIE and FRA or MUC, at different times, with different connectivity options beyond.
This way, they will maximize LHG's joint QSI (quality of service index) on a huge number of O&Ds to suck in traffic. The same applies to belly cargo, by the way.
So when it comes to LX' next longhaul destination, pure point-to-point traffic from ZRH will probably play a secondary role.
Feb 5, 2019, 2:15 pm
#164
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I am sure a flight to Houston would be a cash cow.
IAH has no direct flight to ZRH and would be the perfect gate to Central and South America through UA. Now the only option is flying via GRU, which i try to avoid, and Miami for some selected destinations (Unfortunately GIG and EZE are flown by the dull Edelweiss, which is a joke and certainly no option for me.)
Seoul would be very attractive as well. Not sure they could open IAH and ICN with only 2 more 777 though.
IAD is not really needed as already well served by UA from GVA and ZRH.
Feb 6, 2019, 2:25 am
#165
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The LH Group plans its network in an integrated fashion - constrained by some operational realities, of course.
But take a popular destination such as IAD. If the network planners feel that there is enough demand for that route, they can plan a daily flight from each ZRH, VIE and FRA or MUC, at different times, with different connectivity options beyond.
This way, they will maximize LHG's joint QSI (quality of service index) on a huge number of O&Ds to suck in traffic. The same applies to belly cargo, by the way.
So when it comes to LX' next longhaul destination, pure point-to-point traffic from ZRH will probably play a secondary role.
But take a popular destination such as IAD. If the network planners feel that there is enough demand for that route, they can plan a daily flight from each ZRH, VIE and FRA or MUC, at different times, with different connectivity options beyond.
This way, they will maximize LHG's joint QSI (quality of service index) on a huge number of O&Ds to suck in traffic. The same applies to belly cargo, by the way.
So when it comes to LX' next longhaul destination, pure point-to-point traffic from ZRH will probably play a secondary role.
