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frontenac551 Jul 15, 2018 12:10 pm

"Visitors" in F
 
I flew NBO-ZRH the other day (flight stops in DAR, but those continuing to ZRH don't get off). When I got on, there were four adults in F who appeared to be traveling together and had obviously not gotten on in NBO (so were traveling ZRH to DAR). None of this is unusual (or a problem). However, they had three children who were traveling in J (at least, I assume J, definitely not F) who joined them in F while boarding finished. Two of the boys tried to stay for take-off (in the companion seats) but were sent back to their seats. Once the seatbelt sign was off, all three were back again, though only the two boys stayed (I'd guess that they were about 10 and 12).

Is "visiting" allowed on Swiss in F (from J or Y)? I was curious about any official rules (and/or unofficial applications of any rules). It was only for the short NBO-DAR leg, so really not a big deal, but I was curious (seems like it shouldn't be allowed). And I realise that it makes me sound like a snobbish/pretentious jerk.

The DAR-ZRH only had three of us in F and was super quiet. First time in F on Swiss and was very impressed.

Often1 Jul 15, 2018 1:52 pm

What did the cabin crew say when you asked?

chris63 Jul 15, 2018 2:39 pm

Not normal on LX
not acceptable & the FA’s should not have permitted it.

ced_lx Jul 15, 2018 6:30 pm

Never had this situation. This is the kind of thing I would blow a gasket about...definitely not normal.

s0ssos Jul 15, 2018 6:34 pm

Maybe the children had award tickets in F but it was sold out so they were seated in J.

frontenac551 Jul 15, 2018 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 29976677)
What did the cabin crew say when you asked?

I knew that they were getting off soon and I didn't want to make a fuss, so I didn't say anything. If it had been for the long flight, I would have commented. Sounds like it shouldn't happen again, but I will speak up if it does (since it clearly isn't normal and shouldn't happen).

I wonder if they did for the ZRH-NBO leg or is just started during the wait on the tarmac (I think that they were the only family/group that were in F for the change over). I'm assuming/hoping the latter.

ced_lx Jul 16, 2018 7:57 am

I've actually seen the oposite years ago. This old gentleman was in F, goes to the bathroom. When he exited he went to find a seat in Economy... the staff had to remind him he was in F. Blew my mind.

s0ssos Jul 16, 2018 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by ced_lx (Post 29978921)
I've actually seen the oposite years ago. This old gentleman was in F, goes to the bathroom. When he exited he went to find a seat in Economy... the staff had to remind him he was in F. Blew my mind.

Probably was getting agoraphobic in first

MSPeconomist Jul 16, 2018 9:00 pm


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 29977374)
Maybe the children had award tickets in F but it was sold out so they were seated in J.

Even so, they should stay in J (or Y).

sapman986 Jul 16, 2018 11:12 pm

Had something very similar happen on a QR flight last week, but in J. Mother and father upgraded themselves and left 4 children in Y. All through the 9 hour flight the kids were basically sitting with the parents, in adjacent unused seats etc.. The crew, in a very non-combative way, tried to let the parents know this was not okay, but the parents didn't care. Absolutely out of order, but not much that I or any one else could do. I know as well as the next person that US based airlines have their failings, but I can't imagine any of them having a crew that would allow this type of behavior for very long.


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