Different Fare rules for different departure city (same booking class)

Old Jul 13, 18, 3:09 am
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 74
Different Fare rules for different departure city (same booking class)

Looking at A Fares ex NRT and HKG, HKG A fare allows to re-book and cancel, ex NRT A fare can not be rebooked

Are there sub-buckets in the fare class ?

Thanks for your answer

LS
laoshu is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 3:13 am
  #2  
Marriott Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: ZRH
Programs: LX, SK *G, FPC, GA/AG
Posts: 1,550
Yes, I think. Itís kinda like Business Saver, Normal & Flex.

No idea how this looks like exactly or if it varies with the price available etc.
Nick Art is online now  
Old Jul 13, 18, 3:22 am
  #3  
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, External Miles & Points Resources
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 37,395
Tokyo Munich has 4 fares filed in A, the first two allow free changes and cancel/refund for 30kJPY, the other two no chnages and 150kJPY to cancel/refund.

Code:
13JUL18**13JUL18/LX TYOMUC/NSP;TS/TPM  5866/MPM  7039
LN FARE BASIS    OW   JPY  RT   B PEN  DATES/DAYS   AP MIN MAX R
01+AWRFE1               1650000 A  +  A25OCT B31MAR+ -  -  12M R
                                      O31MAR   -
02+AXRFE1               1530000 A  +  A25OCT B31MAR+ -  -  12M R
                                      O31MAR   -
03+AWRNE1               1490000 A  +     -         +  +  +  21 R
04+AXRNE1               1230000 A  +     -         +  +  +  21 R
oliver2002 is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 7:21 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: M&M FTL (*Silver), KLM/AF blue
Posts: 264
Originally Posted by oliver2002 View Post
Tokyo Munich has 4 fares filed in A, the first two allow free changes and cancel/refund for 30kJPY, the other two no chnages and 150kJPY to cancel/refund.

Code:
13JUL18**13JUL18/LX TYOMUC/NSP;TS/TPM 5866/MPM 7039
LN FARE BASIS OW JPY RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01+AWRFE1 1650000 A + A25OCT B31MAR+ - - 12M R
O31MAR -
02+AXRFE1 1530000 A + A25OCT B31MAR+ - - 12M R
O31MAR -
03+AWRNE1 1490000 A + - + + + 21 R
04+AXRNE1 1230000 A + - + + + 21 R
Key8 is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 7:25 am
  #5  
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: M&M FTL (*Silver), KLM/AF blue
Posts: 264
With Swiss the Booking Classes have nothing to do with whether a ticket is changeable, Refundable. You have too look at the entire fare code.
Within Europe (always risk of some fees)
Flex: Changeabe - refundable
Classic: Changeable - non refundable
Light: Non Changeble - non refundable.
You can have all three for all fare classes.

For intercontinenatal: As a rule of thumb - of there is an N in the second or thrid digit of the fare code this stand for non refundable - if there is an R it is refundable. I have seen cases where both book in the same fare class, obvioulsy with a price difference....
In any case always carefully study the fare conditions before booking! Event travel agents get this wrong sometimes.
Key8 is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 9:01 am
  #6  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Programs: LXFF
Posts: 243
Swiss doesn't always charge the change fee. No clue what the logic is but, I changed dates for a Z fare ticket and they didn't charge me the 310$ change fee, just the fare difference. It wasn't an error, the agent clearly said they don't charge it in this case.
ced_lx is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 9:37 am
  #7  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: ST E+, *G, some hotel gold...
Posts: 2,299
Originally Posted by ced_lx View Post
Swiss doesn't always charge the change fee. No clue what the logic is but, I changed dates for a Z fare ticket and they didn't charge me the 310$ change fee, just the fare difference. It wasn't an error, the agent clearly said they don't charge it in this case.
Maybe they don't charge if you upfare?
Fabo.sk is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 2:08 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: May 2016
Programs: LXFF
Posts: 243
Originally Posted by Fabo.sk View Post
Maybe they don't charge if you upfare?
That's what I figured as well...
ced_lx is offline  
Old Jul 13, 18, 2:34 pm
  #9  
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: ZRH/SFO
Programs: A3*G - AZ CFP- HH DIA
Posts: 3,658
Originally Posted by laoshu View Post
Looking at A Fares ex NRT and HKG, HKG A fare allows to re-book and cancel, ex NRT A fare can not be rebooked
Are there sub-buckets in the fare class ?
Fares (prices) and the rules of LX tickets were different at nearly every country of departure... Mostly the rules 'from the county' were in alignment with the competition airlines and the fares charged calculated by the GDP (grosss domestic product / purchasing power) of the departing country. That's exacly what you found out with your different departures from HKG and NRT. That's the way how it's working at the airline industry since decades...

The introduction of LCC changed and unified this rules and charges a little bit, that rules were on the whole network the same and fees also... But this change has not yet arrived to the big legal airlines... Small efforts have been made due to the competition of LCC, i.ex. the fare structure in Europe.
Air Rarotonga is offline  
Old Jul 16, 18, 1:45 am
  #10  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 74
Dear Oliver,

thank you for your kind reply. I guess that is the answer, A is divided in sub buckets.. with different rules

cheers

LS
laoshu is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread