Nick Art

That'd be my preferred outcome as well.

And I can see it happening!

LXA350

It would be amazing for LX to get the A359, however if for some reason the options are between Dreamliner or keeping the A333 then I would keep the A333, enough already that LX had to get the 77W's unfortunately these will stick around for some time.

Let's see at least LX made a first anouncement that the upgrade of the cabin for 2022 of the A333 is planned it's likely that this seems to happen. I somehow do not believe at the chances of LX receiving new planes around 2023 unless they can have these planes transfered to OS, however will they be able to fly to NRT or LAX? No matter if OS will receive new planes (I doubt it currently) or used ones, the future long haul fleet will consist of one aircraft type which will be a further esential part to lower their costs. SN could theoretically receive some A333's in case they will increase their fleet and or the charter operation of LH? No matter what will be by 2023 the current A333 cabin with our without the plane will hopefully be fully gone as it is already now in not such a great shape, especially in C and Y.

Gioventu

Maybe we can change this thread to "LX - Fleet Planning"?

chris63

Good idea & let’s hope LX adopt our plans for new F on all mid & longhaul flights.

Nick Art

I've been campaigning for years that LX and LH lets us decide on such matters! New Destinations, what planes to buy, what cabins to install etc. We could start by introducing better J seats on shorthaul! Sadly my efforts have been met with no success this far :P

chris63

Better J seats on shorthaul would be great but I fear it will never happen..... the crucial thing is to keep F & see no reduction in that

pafnyc

Any thoughts on why the a340 doesn’t fly to nyc? I’m sure Swiss has good reason but just curious, particularly as NYC seems more premium heavy than BOS and Swiss is now competing with DeltaOne suites and Polaris.

chris63

Short distance route & multiple flights a day from LH group so the A330 is a good fit

televisor

There's just no point in better J seats on shorthaul. There aren't many "shorthaul" flights that are long enough for an american style domestic-F seat to be worth, and adding a fleet just for those flights would be inefficient.

worldclubber

The airlines love the flexibility “Euro-business” gives them and they won’t change anything as long as the can get away with it.

vantage03

A340 does operate to EWR some days

vantage03

I still don’t understand why they can’t install two or three rows of 2-2 recliners and sell it as full fare J or F or whatever, then play the curtain moving game with Eurobiz for discounted fare buckets, or call it Premium Economy (because that’s what it is) and then just keep selling it as far back until people stop paying.. Same food and service for all seats, just a different physical seat

The Wolf

I don't think there is a lot of demand, IF the price is set accordingly. For example, looking at J seats on SN which consistently sell for 700 EUR or more and or mostly non-connecting pax, I only rarely see more than 1 row.

Most J seats sold intra-europe on LH/LX are mostly positioning flights for longhaul J/F anyway.

lightwalker

But wouldn't it be much more fitting to be positioned in an appropriate seat when coming from a long F or J flight? oh, and add a chauffeur drive to take you to the hotel in a nice car, while we are at it.
It's just not a wholesome experience today.

sophialite

I agree that the connecting legs aren’t consistent and there’s no glamor to it. I just don’t realistically know what the airline can do about it that makes sense for them.

Car transfers are interesting. I know LH/LX offer it if originating from certain destinations, but an E Class Mercedes doesn’t really fit either.

I know EK offers these services, but the experience lacks in other ways. And I’m not sure there’s a single airline offering a fully complete experience in the way you desire, unfortunately.

Makes sense too. The kind of travelers airlines want to attract (business travelers and people insensitive to price) prefer to fly direct, and will often have car transport arranged on their own. My cousin holds a cent card, for instance, and gets free high quality airport transfers that way.