BKK schedule change led me to an experiment...
Apr 29, 2021, 10:11 am
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next day in the morning.
Apr 29, 2021, 12:44 pm
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Apr 29, 2021, 8:57 pm
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May 3, 2021, 7:29 am
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Nothing unusual with such departure times. In the past almost all TG flights from Europe to BKK were based on early afternoon departures from Europe and early morning arrivals into BKK. As I recall it pre-Covid LX would depart for BKK late afternoon and arrive BKK in the morning (around 7 or 8 AM) and return to ZRH a couple of hours later/before noon.
May 3, 2021, 7:36 am
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To me, 4:50 am arrival vs 9:50 am arrival at the final destination makes a big difference.
May 3, 2021, 7:45 am
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I agree. I makes a difference also to me, but my point was that there is nothing unusual in those afternoon flights to BKK. Actually late evening departures to BKK are not common I believe.
May 4, 2021, 12:53 am
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in my record it was actually 17:55 and 09:35 during Europen Summertime and 18:00 and 10:35 during Wintertime...
May 4, 2021, 9:46 am
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In find the early afternoon departure time to the far east horrible.
I'm not tired to sleep, and when I am finally tired (i.e. middle of the night in Europe), it's time to get up and disembark.
By the way: the one (maybe main) reason for this odd schedule to BKK is that the cabin crew has to return on the same plane.
arrival at around 5 AM, then getting quarantined in a hotel room for the day, and departing the same night at 11:20 PM.
Not too much fun.
I'm not tired to sleep, and when I am finally tired (i.e. middle of the night in Europe), it's time to get up and disembark.
By the way: the one (maybe main) reason for this odd schedule to BKK is that the cabin crew has to return on the same plane.
arrival at around 5 AM, then getting quarantined in a hotel room for the day, and departing the same night at 11:20 PM.
Not too much fun.
May 5, 2021, 8:05 am
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In find the early afternoon departure time to the far east horrible.
I'm not tired to sleep, and when I am finally tired (i.e. middle of the night in Europe), it's time to get up and disembark.
By the way: the one (maybe main) reason for this odd schedule to BKK is that the cabin crew has to return on the same plane.
arrival at around 5 AM, then getting quarantined in a hotel room for the day, and departing the same night at 11:20 PM.
Not too much fun.
I'm not tired to sleep, and when I am finally tired (i.e. middle of the night in Europe), it's time to get up and disembark.
By the way: the one (maybe main) reason for this odd schedule to BKK is that the cabin crew has to return on the same plane.
arrival at around 5 AM, then getting quarantined in a hotel room for the day, and departing the same night at 11:20 PM.
Not too much fun.
but they also returned the same day during European winter time with an arrival time at 08:40 AM but left just a little bit later...
most of the TG precovid daily flights from Europe to BKK (ZRH, FRA, CDG, MUC, LHR etc.etc.) were leaving early afternoon; flew those dozens of times and got used to... it helps if you shorten your sleep the night ahead of your flight and never sleep during arrival day...
May 5, 2021, 11:21 am
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Of course pre-pandemic the plane did not park in BKK overnight, though I assume back then the aircraft returned the same day but with a new crew that already got to enjoy a wonderful few days in Bangkok; meanwhile now the very same crew works on the return flight with the same aircraft only after a 16-hour or so rest in hotel quarantine. At least that was what I gathered from talking to cabin crew on LH, so I assume similar logic applies for LX scheduling here. Actually I did see some dead-heading pilots on FRA-BKK, so I wonder if a new crew flies the plane but the same FAs work in the cabin?
May 5, 2021, 9:23 pm
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Of course pre-pandemic the plane did not park in BKK overnight, though I assume back then the aircraft returned the same day but with a new crew that already got to enjoy a wonderful few days in Bangkok; meanwhile now the very same crew works on the return flight with the same aircraft only after a 16-hour or so rest in hotel quarantine. At least that was what I gathered from talking to cabin crew on LH, so I assume similar logic applies for LX scheduling here. Actually I did see some dead-heading pilots on FRA-BKK, so I wonder if a new crew flies the plane but the same FAs work in the cabin?
now there are only 3 flights a week (Tue, Thu and Sat ZRH BKK and Wed, Fri, Sun back) and the crew is not allowed to leave the quarantine hotel; that's why they let them return the same day
May 5, 2021, 11:34 pm
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And even better pre 2014. I remember departure ex ZRH at 22:45 and the return ex BKK departing 23:40. Two night flights with a flat bed, nothing better to & from SE Asia.
May 6, 2021, 1:54 am
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Correct - that was when the flight continued to Singapore. Took it several times in 2008 and was perfect, especially on the way back: you were ready to sleep, and had more than 10 hours before you landed at 6am in Zurich. Nice long night, and ready to go to work directly from the airport (after freshening up at the ZRH arrivals lounge).
May 6, 2021, 4:16 am
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Correct - that was when the flight continued to Singapore. Took it several times in 2008 and was perfect, especially on the way back: you were ready to sleep, and had more than 10 hours before you landed at 6am in Zurich. Nice long night, and ready to go to work directly from the airport (after freshening up at the ZRH arrivals lounge).