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jjoe123 Apr 26, 2013 10:45 am

LX operated by EDELWEISS AIR
 
Hello,
I'll be returning from ZRH to TLV in June. I've noticed that the flight (LX 254) is marked as "Operated by EDELWEISS AIR" - what does that mean?

Are they the same LX planes? is there a difference in the miles accumulated on these flights?

Thank you

PetzLUX Apr 27, 2013 12:31 am

It seems you will have an Edelweiss A333, an not an LX A333:

http://www.edelweissair.ch/en/aboard/

As the flight number is LX254, it is an LX wetlease flight, so you should get the miles according the booking class you have booked.

jjoe123 Apr 27, 2013 4:10 am

That is what I thought (and I hope), but according to the miles and more in Lufthansa I should get status miles, but when I check the lufthansa site for this flight it doesn't show these miles in the calculated miles I get for these flight (get only the TLV-ZRH miles which are operated by Swiss)

cbourl Apr 27, 2013 4:33 pm

the aircraft is LX not Edelweiss the usual LX seating

jjoe123 Apr 28, 2013 3:39 am

How do you know it is the same seating? According to the Swiss site it is operated by Edelweiss and it is A330-200

LukasVIE Apr 28, 2013 8:08 am

OK maybe we should create a wiki entry or something because this questions seems to pop up fairly often...

Since LX has no spare aircraft in case of mx, they sometimes use WK (Edelweiss) aircraft to operate on their routes; if that happens, nothing regarding mileage accrual will change!

Btw, the OP is lucky, SWISS used to put A321 on this flight to TLV, so an Edelweiss A330 is much better!

PetzLUX Apr 28, 2013 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by jjoe123 (Post 20663981)
How do you know it is the same seating? According to the Swiss site it is operated by Edelweiss and it is A330-200

LX does not have any A332 anymore, so it is an WK aircraft.

As I already wrote, flight number LX254 is a wetlease, so you will get the miles. It is just the same case as when WK operates ZRH-HAM or so for LX.

Forget about what the lufthansa site shows you about mileage in this case.

htb May 19, 2013 5:10 am

In August Edelweis is flying to Tokyo for LX:

17:10 ZRH - 12:00 +1 NRT
LX 8946
Operated by EDELWEISS AIR

What would I have to expect mileage-wise? Edelweiss doesn't seem to be a partner of M&M...

HTB.

Air Rarotonga May 19, 2013 6:24 am


Originally Posted by htb (Post 20774850)
In August Edelweis is flying to Tokyo for LX:

17:10 ZRH - 12:00 +1 NRT
LX 8946
Operated by EDELWEISS AIR

Wrong!

There are two different flights ZRH-NRT.

- LX is flying daily
- WK 2x the week (LX got codeshare on this WK flights)

Code:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

ZRH  Zurich CH [LSZH]
NRT  Tokyo Narita JP [RJAA]
MON  29 Jul 2013 - 05 Aug 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ----------------------------------------------------------------
LX        160    ZRH  13:00    NRT  07:50 +1  343  0  1234567    11:50      -      1  16 May  26 Oct
LX/WK      8946    ZRH  17:10    NRT  12:00 +1  332  0  ---4-6-    11:50      -      1  15 Jun  07 Sep


htb May 19, 2013 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 20775013)
Wrong!

That's a technicality, and I don't think it earns the label "Wrong!"

LX is offering these flights under LX numbers and my question doesn't change over it:

What would I have to expect mileage-wise? Edelweiss doesn't seem to be a partner of M&M...

HTB.

PetzLUX May 19, 2013 2:55 pm

According to the M&M homepage: no miles.

LX8946 is outside the ranges of LX codeshare numbers which give mileage credit (award miles).

htb May 19, 2013 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by PetzLUX (Post 20777078)
According to the M&M homepage: no miles.

Yes, but according to the M&M homepage I also don't get any miles on Augsburg Airlines or Eurowings -- at least they are not listed.

I'm quite sure you are right, though.

HTB.

Air Rarotonga May 20, 2013 4:11 am


Originally Posted by htb (Post 20775541)
That's a technicality, and I don't think it earns the label "Wrong!"

LX is offering these flights under LX numbers and my question doesn't change over it:

It's wrong to write that 'Edelweis is flying to Tokyo for LX'. Edelweiss flies by it's own to NRT and LX got some codeshare seats on the WK flight...

It's different than for exampe LX14 that is a LX flight and operated by WK...

htb May 20, 2013 4:54 am


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 20779628)
It's wrong to write that 'Edelweis is flying to Tokyo for LX'. Edelweiss flies by it's own to NRT and LX got some codeshare seats on the WK flight...

It's different than for exampe LX14 that is a LX flight and operated by WK...

As I said: it's a technicality and open to linguistic discussion. Edelweiss is flying to Tokyo and LX is selling seats... obviously LX is not flying for Edelweiss in that scenario.

It's a real shame that customers are supposed to know that you might get miles with two/three digit LX flight numbers operated by Edelweiss but might not for four digit flight numbers operated by Edelweiss. But informing customers has always been taking a back seat with Miles&More. The less they know the better.

HTB.

RTW1 May 20, 2013 5:15 am


Originally Posted by htb (Post 20779710)
But informing customers has always been taking a back seat with Miles&More. The less they know the better.

Yeah... publishing the earning clearly on http://www.miles-and-more.com/online...en&cid=1000327 is really keeping it a secret.


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