Updated Security Screening in Geneva (GVA)
#1
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Updated Security Screening in Geneva (GVA)
I flew Sunday from Geneva to Munich and was startled to see the security screening was now right at the top of the steps (making the lounges on the airside of security now). I had flown the previous week and the security was where it always was.
Needless to say, there were two entrance lines, one on the left with 2 machines running and one one on the right (moving much faster) with 4 machines running.
Additionally, there was a fast-track line - but ONLY for Business Class / First Class. I asked at check-in and again at security if I could use the fast-track line as a Senator and they said, "No, only first or business. It seems strange to us too but this is how the Geneva Airport has implemented the fast track line."
So for those flying out of GVA - there is now a fast track line if you are in business/first (but not *A Gold, or SkyTeam Elite). And the lounges are now airside instead of landside so you can time your departure to the gates better.
Beofotch
Needless to say, there were two entrance lines, one on the left with 2 machines running and one one on the right (moving much faster) with 4 machines running.
Additionally, there was a fast-track line - but ONLY for Business Class / First Class. I asked at check-in and again at security if I could use the fast-track line as a Senator and they said, "No, only first or business. It seems strange to us too but this is how the Geneva Airport has implemented the fast track line."
So for those flying out of GVA - there is now a fast track line if you are in business/first (but not *A Gold, or SkyTeam Elite). And the lounges are now airside instead of landside so you can time your departure to the gates better.
Beofotch
#2
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So, I'm trying to imagine..before hand the 2 security controls for A and C gates were adjacent to the stairs and escalator leading down to the B gates, now they have moved them to where the passport control used to be (and where they I guess used to check boarding passes), so everything including the Duty Free store, Swatch, Hermes etc. as well as the lounges is now inside security?
#4
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This is good news! I guess you can use fast track as a HON though.
Also in ZRH you can use the fast track even as an FTL.. They have no clue about shiny cards there. Next time I flash a golden credit card .
Also in ZRH you can use the fast track even as an FTL.. They have no clue about shiny cards there. Next time I flash a golden credit card .
#5
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Did you ask at the Check-in for a priority access?
At MAN, I got a green sticker on my boarding pass at CI (SEN flying Eco). I can't believe that LX has not the influence for letting it's premium customers through the premium-security at one of it's home airports...
At MAN, I got a green sticker on my boarding pass at CI (SEN flying Eco). I can't believe that LX has not the influence for letting it's premium customers through the premium-security at one of it's home airports...
#6
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and this is what it looked liked yesterday at GVA at 07:13
Being a poor Senator there was no fast track
Total time wasted ... 28 minutes
Congratulations GVA!
PS. Sorry for the shaky picture
Being a poor Senator there was no fast track
Total time wasted ... 28 minutes
Congratulations GVA!
PS. Sorry for the shaky picture
#7
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Hi rorschi,
GVA is not really one of LX's home airports any more ... they have dwindled down the number of flights so much that Easyjet is the leading airline in GVA, and even they don't get everything they want.
(Edit: From the 2008 annual report: The major airlines in terms of market share were easyJet (33.6%), Swiss (12.3%), Air France (8.1%), British Airways (6.5%) and Lufthansa (6.3%))
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
(Edit: From the 2008 annual report: The major airlines in terms of market share were easyJet (33.6%), Swiss (12.3%), Air France (8.1%), British Airways (6.5%) and Lufthansa (6.3%))
Cheers,
GenevaFlyer
Last edited by GenevaFlyer; Oct 2, 2009 at 3:43 am Reason: Added market share
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I went through this new security control yesterday, and it was quite stressful because I thought I was going to miss the flight. For once, I was on the easyJet non-stop to EDI, and with the huge walk to D85 afterwards, I was sure I was going to be offloaded. But all was ok.
The line spilled out onto the upstairs concourse. It did move forward reasonably quickly, though, so it seemed fairly efficient.
The line spilled out onto the upstairs concourse. It did move forward reasonably quickly, though, so it seemed fairly efficient.
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#10
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So I just heard from one of my friends who fly out of Geneva, and she said the new security system is extremely poorly designed and has so much backlog that now you have to budget almost 25 mins there to catch a plane! There is a line for C/F, though it's unclear if this is also for Elite members (e.g. *G/*S etc.), even the agents there were unsure...there are no more rolling slides to slide your bucket tray along (e.g. where you put your laptop into) and when you exit you have to go through some small narrow corridor via the food court to get to the main area where you have Duty Free and lounges.. which is the only benefit of the new system, that you no longer have to keep worrying about how long the security line is when your meant to be relaxing at the lounge.
#11
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Whilst browsing this website (www.gvaplus.ch) I found (with difficulty) this article in french:
One Stop Security
LAIG inaugure le 23 septembre son nouveau dispositif de contrle de sret centralis (CSC). Ce dispositif parachve la mue de larogare. Il devrait galement bouleverser en douceur le comportement des passagers.
Lobjectif est simple : il sagit de rassembler en un seul endroit tous les points dinspection filtrage. Le dispositif est conu pour que les temps dattente nexcdent jamais dix minutes.
Lintroduction du centre de contrle centralis devrait modifier les habitudes des passagers: sitt enregistrs, les passagers pourront passer le contrle de sret. En toute srnit, ils pourront ensuite faire du shopping jusqu ce quon leur annonce le dbut de lembarquement.
La mise en place du CSC satisfait les exigences de la rglementation europenne en matire de sret. On parle l du concept de One stop security : tous les passagers ayant pris lavion Genve sont considrs comme propres en terme de sret, dans tous les aroports europens dans lesquels ils atterrissent. Sils doivent prendre une correspondance pour continuer leur voyage, ils ne devront donc plus faire lobjet de nouveaux contrles.
The 2nd paragraph indicates that the new security screening is conceived so that the waiting time never exceeds 10 minutes (!)
The 4th paragraph indicates "all passengers flying from Geneva are considered "clean" in terms of security, in all European airports in which they land. If they have to take a correspondence to continue their trip, they will no longer need another security control"
Does this mean that you no longer need to re-do security in Zurich going to Terminal E (?) let alone in other European airports ??
Rather confusing to me ... anyone experienced this yet?
One Stop Security
LAIG inaugure le 23 septembre son nouveau dispositif de contrle de sret centralis (CSC). Ce dispositif parachve la mue de larogare. Il devrait galement bouleverser en douceur le comportement des passagers.
Lobjectif est simple : il sagit de rassembler en un seul endroit tous les points dinspection filtrage. Le dispositif est conu pour que les temps dattente nexcdent jamais dix minutes.
Lintroduction du centre de contrle centralis devrait modifier les habitudes des passagers: sitt enregistrs, les passagers pourront passer le contrle de sret. En toute srnit, ils pourront ensuite faire du shopping jusqu ce quon leur annonce le dbut de lembarquement.
La mise en place du CSC satisfait les exigences de la rglementation europenne en matire de sret. On parle l du concept de One stop security : tous les passagers ayant pris lavion Genve sont considrs comme propres en terme de sret, dans tous les aroports europens dans lesquels ils atterrissent. Sils doivent prendre une correspondance pour continuer leur voyage, ils ne devront donc plus faire lobjet de nouveaux contrles.
The 2nd paragraph indicates that the new security screening is conceived so that the waiting time never exceeds 10 minutes (!)
The 4th paragraph indicates "all passengers flying from Geneva are considered "clean" in terms of security, in all European airports in which they land. If they have to take a correspondence to continue their trip, they will no longer need another security control"
Does this mean that you no longer need to re-do security in Zurich going to Terminal E (?) let alone in other European airports ??
Rather confusing to me ... anyone experienced this yet?
Last edited by asimha; Oct 5, 2009 at 2:45 am Reason: Modified the post
#12
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In the case of ZRH, this will only become effective once the new, centralized security screening is in place.
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Now that Switzerland is in Schengen, going to any EU destination you will no longer be required to clear security. However... flights to non-schengen are often located in another area and require that you go through security AGAIN...like FRA (which p.s. is a mess if your going schengen to non-schengen or vice versa, prepare for a long trek in the tunnels from the A to B concourse)