Nov 9, 2019, 1:49 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
The Carbon Conscious Travel forum has been launched and can be found here: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/carb...us-travel-769/
Carbon Conscious Travel [forum now open - see inside]
Jul 9, 2019, 8:00 am
#16
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People who think they can be Carbon Conscious AND fly in aircraft for holiday and work have their head in the sand and/or have little concept of the topic. *eyeroll*
Would be very interested in your opinions as soon as you quit flying and start living a carbon frugal existence.
Would be very interested in your opinions as soon as you quit flying and start living a carbon frugal existence.
Jul 9, 2019, 8:05 am
#17
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Please NO! You will regret it.
Jul 9, 2019, 8:06 am
#18
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I think it should have one, it seems the sensible thing to do
Jul 9, 2019, 8:06 am
#19
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This post is very exemplary of what is wrong with modern American discourse - everything has to be spoken of in extremes. Either completely unbounded or completely banned (e.g. guns, substances). Could it not be that people want to take the first step in a certain direction without going to the furthest possible extreme? In your mind, no, but in the minds of reasonable people, of course. This is why the rest of the developed world is running ahead of us in many domains - making positive steps with beneficial impacts while we are paralyzed arguing about the furthest possible ends of the spectrum.
I guarantee I live today and have lived the past 50 years being far more environmentally conscious than yourself...but go ahead and paint me with whatever brush makes you feel superior.
I am excusing myself from further participation since you were aggressive and rude and judgemental from your first *eyeroll* post.
Jul 9, 2019, 8:13 am
#20
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When you get a more informed understanding of the issue then you will understand that anything less than extreme measures will be insufficient.
I guarantee I live today and have lived the past 50 years being far more environmentally conscious than yourself...but go ahead and paint me with whatever brush makes you feel superior.
I guarantee I live today and have lived the past 50 years being far more environmentally conscious than yourself...but go ahead and paint me with whatever brush makes you feel superior.
Generally speaking, I'm having difficulty here - you apparently live an environmentally conscious lifestyle and believe that "extreme measures" are needed to address the issue, yet attack posters who are in support of giving people a venue through which to discuss first steps. Would you rather the status quo continue? Because we're not going to go straight from A to Z; there will need to be intermediate steps.
Also, I found this quote of yours very apropos, given your second line above:
Jul 9, 2019, 8:43 am
#21
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: BOS
Posts: 101
I'm in!
My hometown has a literal mountain made of trash that gets bigger every year. (I was not born with a platinum status card in my mouth! 
) I know some of those single use plastics I use as I travel are going to my hometown and making that mountain higher. I don't like contributing to that. I'd love a place to discuss ideas on how to be better.
) I know some of those single use plastics I use as I travel are going to my hometown and making that mountain higher. I don't like contributing to that. I'd love a place to discuss ideas on how to be better.
Jul 9, 2019, 8:56 am
#22
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 24
I don't subscribe at all to the idea of "Man-made climate change" or even "CARBON" being a bad thing (it does give plants life).
BUT!!!! I am in support of a forum here on FT that might give me tips and or tricks on how to travel more environmentally conscience. I think I might be pleasantly surprised with what I might learn.
BUT!!!! I am in support of a forum here on FT that might give me tips and or tricks on how to travel more environmentally conscience. I think I might be pleasantly surprised with what I might learn.
Jul 9, 2019, 9:19 am
#23
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Jul 9, 2019, 9:48 am
#24
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The increase in CO2 since 1900 has increased gross primary productivity of plants worldwide by 31%. So I'm all for anything that increases plant life. More carbon for everyone.
Jul 9, 2019, 10:27 am
#25
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I vote no. Who would change their travel plans to reduce their "carbon footprint"?
Jul 9, 2019, 10:44 am
#26
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Location: DCA
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Enough people that the EU is going to start carbon-rating airliners:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...concerns-mount
Also, in a timely move, the New York Times announced just today that its travel desk will start buying offsets for all trips:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/r...n-offsets.html
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...concerns-mount
Also, in a timely move, the New York Times announced just today that its travel desk will start buying offsets for all trips:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/r...n-offsets.html
Jul 9, 2019, 11:34 am
#27
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1
No, No, No, totally irrelevant to why frequent fliers read this forum!. Furthermore, it can be a polarizing issue as demonstrated by responses to-date. Don't taint an excellent travel forum with something that might leave a "bad taste" for many readers.
Jul 9, 2019, 11:49 am
#28
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Bravo, bfollett!!
Jul 9, 2019, 12:47 pm
#29
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Great idea
Great idea Prospero! I'm in
Jul 9, 2019, 2:59 pm
#30
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 33
Do not do this topic
This is a travel blog. It should not be about a pseudo science political argument. Man made global warming is only a theory as it has never been proven one way or the other. I can provide a plethora of citations both ways to illustrate this, but I will not go into this on a travel site. Stick to travel related topics.