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Suggest FT add “Like” button [implemented 9 Aug 2017]

Old Aug 8, 2017, 9:37 am
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The new "Like" "button"

When you click on the "Like" button, it registers the handle of the user liking the post in a horizontal box immediately below the "Like" button. "Liking" a post also optionally sends a notification to the post owner. "Like" notifications appear in Your Control Panel in My FlyerTalk.

To turn the notification function on or off, look in Your Control Panel and Settings & Options under Messaging & Notification:

Likes Notifications:
  • Enable Likes Notifications
  • Disable Likes Notifications

NOTE: Editing a post causes the "Likes" to disappear for a short period of time. They are restored after that pause.

To report issues, problems etc. please visit this thread in the Technical Support and Feedback forum: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/technical-support-feedback/1863159-new-like-button-information-issues-discussion.html

LIST OF SUGGESTIONS, PROS and CONS discussed in thread:

Please add all your suggestions since implementation, August 9 2017:
  1. Modify Like button to take up less real estate - ie, put the button w/ the other buttons & likes under signatures or list only if hover
  2. Allow members to completely turn off the ability to see likes
  3. Use Helpful instead of Like
  4. Completely eliminate Like button
  5. Do not display handles of those who Liked the post

"Some FTers are supportive of like/helpful button. Some are not. Some on both sides of the issue have questions, concerns and/or need more info. This wiki attempts to highlight them in bullet format/"cliff notes" version from the 566 posts made in prior Talkboard thread, which had 700 posts. More detailed information regarding the pros/cons/questions/concerns/info can be garnered by reading the entire thread, where FTers on both sides of the like/helpful button have been eloquent/provided valuable input. When TalkBoard last polled FT members, the result of the poll was in favour of introducing likes (by a considerable margin)

Pros:
* Make Flyertalk more modern/more like Facebook, LinkedIn and many other social media sites
* A like/helpful button would minimize unnecessary replies such as +1.
* Streamlines posts
* The value add of showing likes, helpful votes, etc. is that it can surface good content and get more views for it
* Positive feedback incentivizes quality content/FTers will post more
* Some people won’t take time to write a thank you but will post a like
* Those with more likes/helpfuls are considered knowledgable

Cons:
* Makes Flyertalk more like Facebook/dumbs it down
* FT had rating system here years ago and it did not go well
* System can be gamed/cliques develop
* Clutters up posts/takes up valuable screen space
* Will not eliminate +1s/+1s also provide positive feedback
* Posts that have inaccurate info can also get likes/doesn't mean poster is knowledgable
* If FTers post info & it doesn't get likes/helpfuls, less incentive to post more
* Some who might have posted info in the past will now just post like, so less information provided to other FTers.

Questions, concerns about how it will work, and/or information based on brief internal trial already done (trial done last time it came up for discussion)
* If implemented, can FTers who prefer not to utilize the like/helpful button turn it off so that they don't see it at all?
* Is there a software way to separate likes of posts from posters? (Limited trial indicates no; don't know if software can be changed to do so)
* Can a post/day count be implemented before implementing for FTers, similar Omni/CC? (Yes)
* Can certain forums have it turned off such as Omni? (No, current software is it's either all forums or none)
* If a sitewide trial is created, what are the metrics for success or failure?
* What is the goal of this/how will the data be used?
* If customization of current software is required, will this take away from development on other projects such as a better mobile app?
* Will or can there be a dislike/unhelpful button?
* What happens if a post that is "liked" gets its content edited and ends up having a different meaning than it initially had at the time the post was "liked"?
* Can threads or individual posts deemed helpful be bookmarked/saved?"

IBobi responded to theses comments and questions here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28664495-post59.html


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Suggest FT add “Like” button [implemented 9 Aug 2017]

Old Oct 19, 2017, 11:22 pm
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The "Like" feature is a visual blight that serves no useful purpose and merely clutters up my screen. Ditch it ASAP.
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Old Oct 20, 2017, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by CDTraveler
The "Like" feature is a visual blight that serves no useful purpose and merely clutters up my screen. Ditch it ASAP.
While I'm no huge fan of this feature -- which served/serves some purposes considered useful by some -- there are various other things that also clutter up the screen when using FT and clutter up the screen even more than the Like feature and its use.
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Old Oct 23, 2017, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by nsx
Liking an opposing post is an efficient way to concede an argument without wasting readers' time. @:-)
And how often do FTers concede an argument
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Old Oct 29, 2017, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by jackal
You're one of the most like-happy people I know on Facebook. I'm trying to understand what your concept and opposition to a similar implementation here is. Can you expand?



Like button != rating system

Without the ability to rate a post negatively, where is the danger of abuse?
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Old Oct 29, 2017, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
In the forums I follow, I have seen little usage of the Like to mark helpful / useful posts. The usage I have seen is most "I agree", especially when two or more opinions are being debated. Little usefulness for noting useful posts. And an occasional, thank you.
Well, it's called "Like," not "Useful" or "Helpful." I'd much prefer a way to mark posts as useful/helpful, but that doesn't seem to be the intent here.

Originally Posted by nsx
Liking an opposing post is an efficient way to concede an argument without wasting readers' time. @:-)
I doubt it. Just as one reason, only the most recent likers are shown, so it's at most a highly transitory indication. A short post conceding an argument and saying why is far more effective (and gracious).

Originally Posted by CDTraveler
The "Like" feature is a visual blight that serves no useful purpose and merely clutters up my screen. Ditch it ASAP.
I have it omitted with a Cascading StyleSheet tweak. Instructions are upthread.
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Old Nov 15, 2017, 9:48 am
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Good grief, the forum was updated and feels completely different all of a sudden, yet the 'Like' button remains on its own line. I actually rather 'like' the feature, but I thought changing up the display method would have been a nice bone to throw to the folks that resent it for the screen real estate it takes up.
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Old Nov 15, 2017, 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by synergistic
Good grief, the forum was updated and feels completely different all of a sudden, yet the 'Like' button remains on its own line. I actually rather 'like' the feature, but I thought changing up the display method would have been a nice bone to throw to the folks that resent it for the screen real estate it takes up.
I don't like the like feature, but I agree... If an update was going to happen, it would've been the perfect time to do something to clean up the like feature.
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Old Nov 16, 2017, 12:59 am
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That would mean IB listened to feedback, which we all know will happen the same day Delta and Qatar Airways are best buddys and cooperate-
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Old Nov 16, 2017, 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by synergistic
Good grief, the forum was updated and feels completely different all of a sudden, yet the 'Like' button remains on its own line. I actually rather 'like' the feature, but I thought changing up the display method would have been a nice bone to throw to the folks that resent it for the screen real estate it takes up.
Given how much I dislike the new FT site design implementation, the Like feature seems like the least of the problems with the site design now.
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Old Nov 20, 2017, 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Given how much I dislike the new FT site design implementation, the Like feature seems like the least of the problems with the site design now.
Ironic, eh?
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Old Nov 20, 2017, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Given how much I dislike the new FT site design implementation, the Like feature seems like the least of the problems with the site design now.
I'd be tempted to 'like' this post, but my CSS hides the 'like' line
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Old Nov 20, 2017, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
I'd be tempted to 'like' this post, but my CSS hides the 'like' line
+1
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Old Nov 20, 2017, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by anabolism
I'd be tempted to 'like' this post, but my CSS hides the 'like' line
I have also purged the abomination. Good job.
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 5:44 pm
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So did IB explain why "like" only appears if you aren't in OMNI?
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Old Apr 10, 2018, 6:53 pm
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So did IB explain why "like" only appears if you aren't in OMNI?
I don't think they have, but the potential for "likes" being contentious there, and especially on PR, is pretty obvious
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