Planet Hollywood 2008 [Master Thread]

 
Old Jan 24, 08, 2:26 pm
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PH nice stay

Just back from 4 nights. Was upgraded on my Pts stay to a vista 'suite' overlooking the bellagio fountains, very nice view - once that construction next to it is done - wow! We counted 27 cranes from our window on the one development...

No issues, friendly staff, good food, lost money, had fun!...
would stay again...

Walked up to the Westin (to grab the rental car - Enterprise - for almost $20 less than Avis at PH wanted, and got upgraded car with coupon to boot) - Nice little property there, clean and fresh! smelling Westin scent, even in the Casino! Had a look at the rooms and a nice prop tour from Anastasia, who was excellent - so we'd probably stay at this prop next time.
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Old Jan 24, 08, 5:49 pm
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"Nice little property there, clean and fresh! smelling Westin scent"
Well I know two FT'ers whose rooms had a different kind of scent
But I will let them tell the story.
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Old Jan 28, 08, 3:40 pm
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Just back from 2 nights at the PH and had a great time. No line at check-in at 7:30 on a Friday night. Immediately welcomed as a Platinum guest and offered an upgrade to a Vista suite, but non-renovated. I turned it down and was given a started renovated room with a view of the strip, and an extra 500 points. Great check-in experience.

Room was nice. My only other Vegas data point is the Wynn and it is not as nice that. Room was functional with a nice bed and decent TV and huge bathroom. I didn't have any of the elevator / noise problems that other people have talked about here.

We loved the casino at PH. Probably one of the more fun one's on the strip.
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Old Feb 2, 08, 2:44 pm
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May I ask for advice guys: Would you recommand the Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas (standard member with SPG) or a nice Hilton hotel (diamond member there)?
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Old Feb 2, 08, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Didi View Post
May I ask for advice guys: Would you recommand the Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas (standard member with SPG) or a nice Hilton hotel (diamond member there)?
If you have Elite status with Hilton, I would use Hilton in Las Vegas. Physically bring your card, it can be beneficial for on property perks. See the Hilton threads for more information.

The only way I say stay at an SPG property is if switching between the Westin and Planet Hollywood, to take advantage of the Q1 promo.
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Old Feb 2, 08, 3:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Cheap Elite View Post
If you have Elite status with Hilton, I would use Hilton in Las Vegas. Physically bring your card, it can be beneficial for on property perks. See the Hilton threads for more information.

The only way I say stay at an SPG property is if switching between the Westin and Planet Hollywood, to take advantage of the Q1 promo.
IMO PH has a much better location than Hilton's location (unless you're going for a convention) even though Hilton has monorail access.
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Old Feb 2, 08, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Cheap Elite View Post
If you have Elite status with Hilton, I would use Hilton in Las Vegas. Physically bring your card, it can be beneficial for on property perks. See the Hilton threads for more information.

The only way I say stay at an SPG property is if switching between the Westin and Planet Hollywood, to take advantage of the Q1 promo.

That what I thought about. If I can also beat the rate, I would have 1k extra from the Q1 plus 2k from the BRG, makes 3k.

Regarding the Hiltons: I have very mixed feelings. Was never in a US Hilton but have the impression (from what I see on websites) that the LV Hiltons are somewhat like Tripreward hotels. I may be wrong in this point? I hope.
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Old Feb 2, 08, 9:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Didi View Post
May I ask for advice guys: Would you recommand the Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas (standard member with SPG) or a nice Hilton hotel (diamond member there)?
I like both the PH and Westin. In fact I am staying at the PH next week. But if you are a HH Diamond and have no *wood status (and being in a casino hotel is not important to you), consider the HGVC at the Flamingo. I have stayed there twice (Feb 2006 and Jun 2007), and both times I was upgraded to a 1 BR suite with a jacuzzi in the bedroom. And that was while I was still HH Gold. The property does not have a restaurant, so in lieu of breakfast, you get a $10 credit per guest per night at the deli/store. (Beer money )
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Old Feb 3, 08, 12:31 am
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Any theories on why *Wood doesn't have more hotels in Vegas?

Note: Both Westin and PH are Cat5.
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Old Feb 3, 08, 1:56 am
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Originally Posted by super-mileage-fan View Post
Any theories on why *Wood doesn't have more hotels in Vegas?

Note: Both Westin and PH are Cat5.
Because they recently opened 2 new hotels (Sheraton Midtown, Westin Minneapolis) in Minneapolis with 3 more under construction (Ivy, W Foshay, and Aloft). Their resources are directed to the markets where they will get the highest return on the dollar).
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Old Feb 3, 08, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by super-mileage-fan View Post
Any theories on why *Wood doesn't have more hotels in Vegas?
Because the aloft and element hotels that are planned for Vegas are not ready yet.

The W Las Vegas project fell through for a number of reasons. The main problem is that construction prices have skyrocketed in Vegas even more than in other places. So have land values, and the owners could choose to resell the land and make a hefty profit without even ever starting a building. OTOH, I think that land is going to be the key to a big expansion off the Strip, and something will show up there eventually. Starwood itself had a relatively small stake in the project -- 15%, IIRC.

The competion for pulling off a successful condo hotel project is intense -- especially with MGM Mirage's huge $7.4B CityCenter.

If the Planet Hollywood Towers are ever completed as planned, their rooms might likely end up as part of PH hotel inventory or at least managed by the PH staff. I'm not aware of any direct financial investment that Starwood has in this project; it's owned by Westgate.

Down on the west side of I-15 directly opposite the Mandalay Bay, there's a large tract of property that could potentially get a Starwood tie-in. I'm not sure exactly who owns this land -- Starwood, Starwood Capital, Westgate, or someone else.

Years ago, the site of the Wynn was owned by Sheraton ITT. This was the site of the original plan for a PH casino resort. Back in these threads somewhere I have posted links to photos of the celebrity groundbreaking ceremony.

Also years ago, Sheraton had a stake in Caesar's. I'm not sure exactly why they got out of that deal, but it was probably a good decision at the time. (They still market the Poconos resorts, though.)

IMO, Starwood and SPG are not set up well to compete in the casino market of Las Vegas. They have chosen to take a pretty major stab at trying to make a name for themselves in Macao, though.

If you want to read more theories and learn more about the Vegas market, check out http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/ and FT's own Las Vegas forum.
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Old Feb 3, 08, 9:47 am
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I think it is a shame that Westgate is doing the timeshares at PH, I hope it falls through.
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Old Feb 3, 08, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by Didi View Post
May I ask for advice guys: Would you recommand the Planet Hollywood in Las Vegas (standard member with SPG) or a nice Hilton hotel (diamond member there)?
I like the PH and even better since the renovation. The location is great. Now, I typically only stay there if I get a promo rate that includes like breakfast buffet coupons etc. My second choice is the Hilton Las Vegas, even though its location is pretty far from the strip (I always have a car so no big deal for me) they treat Diamonds and Golds pretty well. I always book the "classic" room and get a newly renovated room which is nice and I also get comp spa access and free breakfast. You will need your Diamond card at this property as mentioned before. So, to me the distance away from the strip isnt as important as the great rates and benefits as a Diamond at the Hilton. If you want to be on the strip and dont mind foregoing the benefits elites typically get the PH is a good property and great location.
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Old Feb 3, 08, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by sc flier View Post
Years ago, the site of the Wynn was owned by Sheraton ITT.
Perzactly right! Many of us remember glorious stays at the old Desert Inn which was owned by Sheraton ITT. In fact, for some time towards the end, it was marketed occasionally as the Sheraton Desert Inn. Concurrently, Caesar's was also participating in the old Sheraton SCI program.

That made Sheraton and Hilton essentially the only two real chain hotel players, IIRC. Marriott had long avoided LAS at all costs --- I always suspected that the Marriott family had an aversion to the place.

Depsite all the sweeping changes, modifications, remakes and teardowns, I can tell you I'd go back to the old Desert Inn anyday. It had always been a grande dame of a hotel and, in its final incarnation following extensive remodeling, it really was a showplace. It seems like just weeks thereafter the announcement to tear it down was announced.
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Old Feb 3, 08, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by sc flier View Post
Because the aloft and element hotels that are planned for Vegas are not ready yet.

The W Las Vegas project fell through for a number of reasons. The main problem is that construction prices have skyrocketed in Vegas even more than in other places. So have land values, and the owners could choose to resell the land and make a hefty profit without even ever starting a building. OTOH, I think that land is going to be the key to a big expansion off the Strip, and something will show up there eventually. Starwood itself had a relatively small stake in the project -- 15%, IIRC.
I suspect the land has been sold off...when I went past there a couple of weeks ago, it looked like some renewed signs of future activity were brewing.
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