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For discussion of the now expired offer for a 35K signup bonus, see Amex SPG 35,000 business and personal cards-2016 [No referral offers in this thread.]
USA-issued card benefits changed on August 11, 2015. (Announcement & extended discussion at American Express and Starwood enhance cobrand credit card benefits.) The benefits are slightly different for personal and business cards:
Public Links:
- The Annual Fee is $450.
- Earn 6x at Marriott properties; 3x on restaurants and airfare; 2x on all other purchases.
- Enjoy up to $300 in statement credits each year of Card Membership for eligible purchases at participating Marriott Bonvoy hotels
- FREE NIGHT AWARD: Receive 1 Free Night Award every year after your Card account anniversary. Award can be used for one night (redemption level at or under 50,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) at a participating hotel.
- COMPLIMENTARY GOLD ELITE STATUS: Enjoy complimentary Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status with your Card. Earn Marriott Bonvoy Platinum Elite status after making $75,000 in eligible purchases on your Card in a calendar year.
- Other Highlighted Benefits: Priority Pass Select Membership, Global Entry credit, No Foreign Transaction fees.
- $125 Annual Fee (If application received before 03/28/19, $0 intro annual fee for the first year, then $95)
- Earn 6x at Marriott properties; 4x at U.S. restaurants, at U.S. gas stations, on wireless telephone services & on U.S. purchases for shipping; 2x on all other purchases.
- Free Night Award: Receive 1 Free Night Award every year after your Card account anniversary. Award can be used for one night (redemption level at or under 35,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) at a participating hotel.
- Complimentary Silver Elite Status
- No Foreign Transaction Fees
Other related discussion:
USA-issued card benefits changed on August 11, 2015. (Announcement & extended discussion at American Express and Starwood enhance cobrand credit card benefits.) The benefits are slightly different for personal and business cards:
Public Links:
- Personal [Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express Card]: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/credit-cards/card/marriott-bonvoy-brilliant
- The Annual Fee is $450.
- Earn 6x at Marriott properties; 3x on restaurants and airfare; 2x on all other purchases.
- Enjoy up to $300 in statement credits each year of Card Membership for eligible purchases at participating Marriott Bonvoy hotels
- FREE NIGHT AWARD: Receive 1 Free Night Award every year after your Card account anniversary. Award can be used for one night (redemption level at or under 50,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) at a participating hotel.
- COMPLIMENTARY GOLD ELITE STATUS: Enjoy complimentary Marriott Bonvoy Gold Elite status with your Card. Earn Marriott Bonvoy Platinum Elite status after making $75,000 in eligible purchases on your Card in a calendar year.
- Other Highlighted Benefits: Priority Pass Select Membership, Global Entry credit, No Foreign Transaction fees.
- Business [Marriott Bonvoy Business Card]: https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...s-credit-card/
- $125 Annual Fee (If application received before 03/28/19, $0 intro annual fee for the first year, then $95)
- Earn 6x at Marriott properties; 4x at U.S. restaurants, at U.S. gas stations, on wireless telephone services & on U.S. purchases for shipping; 2x on all other purchases.
- Free Night Award: Receive 1 Free Night Award every year after your Card account anniversary. Award can be used for one night (redemption level at or under 35,000 Marriott Bonvoy points) at a participating hotel.
- Complimentary Silver Elite Status
- No Foreign Transaction Fees
- Discussion of Amex "one bonus per lifetime" policy (personal & business cards)
- Annual fee retention bonus for Starwood Amex Card
- American Express and Starwood enhance cobrand credit card benefits
- How to keep SPG points from expiring after 12 months of account inactivity
- New Card Art for the US Starwood Preferred Guest Credit Card from American Express
SPG American Express [Master Thread]
Jun 17, 2011, 4:08 pm
#1291
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 369
How fast do "First Purchase Points" post?
How fast do "First Purchase Points" post?
I need 'em bad!
I need 'em bad!
Jun 17, 2011, 4:19 pm
#1292
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Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,041
Jun 18, 2011, 9:50 pm
#1293
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: hyatt
Posts: 203
should i grab the 25k bonus, or wait for a better one later?
Jun 19, 2011, 12:46 am
#1294
formerly known as daveland
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: NY, NY, USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LTP, Delta Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 2,969
Jun 19, 2011, 11:20 pm
#1295
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Gold, AMEX MR & SPG, United, AA, Delta
Posts: 60
Jun 20, 2011, 6:15 am
#1296
Join Date: May 2009
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 452
I know this is a very basic question, and I have searched but would welcome some reassurance: am I right to think that if I close my SPG Amex, the bonus points I received when I opened it won't disappear (unlike, say, Amex membership rewards)?
Jun 20, 2011, 11:22 am
#1298
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
IMHO it's a 10k+15k bonus, and shouldn't be though of a straight 25k bonus unless $15000 spending is something you do in your sleep.
Remember, if you don't achieve $15000 spending within 6 months, all you get is the 10k bonus.
And I can imagine that almost anything in the future would likely be better than just a 10k bonus!
I can also imagine that most offers in the future would be at least a bit "easier" than requiring at least $2500 spend/month on the card.
And in fact, there is alreayd a current targeted offer that's 30k and far less spend requirement. You just have to wait to see if either (a) you're targeted, or (b) an open offer closer to that comes along.
Remember, if you don't achieve $15000 spending within 6 months, all you get is the 10k bonus.
And I can imagine that almost anything in the future would likely be better than just a 10k bonus!
I can also imagine that most offers in the future would be at least a bit "easier" than requiring at least $2500 spend/month on the card.
And in fact, there is alreayd a current targeted offer that's 30k and far less spend requirement. You just have to wait to see if either (a) you're targeted, or (b) an open offer closer to that comes along.
Jun 20, 2011, 1:29 pm
#1299
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: CHA/TYS
Programs: The Mac Daddy of Heimlich County (and low-ball status)
Posts: 2,868
aye, i'd wait out a better offer. look at what's already come along with most airlines and a few hotels this year. i would think it's only a matter of time before a nice bonus comes up with no more than a $3k spend.
Jun 20, 2011, 1:33 pm
#1300
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 769
My wife has the DL Skymiles card and we were wondering if she switched it over to SPG AMEX, would she get the bonus miles?
Jun 21, 2011, 3:06 pm
#1301
formerly known as daveland
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: NY, NY, USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LTP, Delta Platinum, Hilton Honors Diamond, Wyndham Diamond
Posts: 2,969
Jun 21, 2011, 4:23 pm
#1302
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They are only given if apply for the new card "from scratch".
If you want to try to "consolidate" the two cards later (ie, transfer the credit history and maybe some credit limit from the older card to the new card and then cancel the old card), you can try that. But you have to do it in that order if you want a bonus from the new card.
Keep in mind that the whole point of bonuses is to attract customers who would otherwise not sign up for the card. If you are asking to convert a card, you are demostrating that you would apply anyway, and so no bonus.
The fact that by applying "from scratch" you can apply and get a bonus even though you intended to get the card anyway is a "loophole" (from the standpoint of the bank). They can't read your mind. But they can (and do) design the bonus as an incentive for new accounts, not as in incentive for converted accounts.
Jun 21, 2011, 7:14 pm
#1303
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: Marriott Gold, AMEX MR & SPG, United, AA, Delta
Posts: 60
sdsearch thanks you for all the details. I find your responses very helpful. After thinking long and hard I have decided to have SPG Amex.
Do (good) deals on SPG AMEX show up often? I saw 10K+15K deal but saw last year it was 30K points with 3K spending.
Do (good) deals on SPG AMEX show up often? I saw 10K+15K deal but saw last year it was 30K points with 3K spending.
Last edited by hellomms; Jun 22, 2011 at 10:42 am Reason: thanking sdsearch
Jun 21, 2011, 8:40 pm
#1304
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: EWR
Programs: UAPlat; *Gold; Hyatt Diam; SPG Plat; PWP goddess
Posts: 16,525
Jun 22, 2011, 11:30 am
#1305
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 769
That's what I thought too. She applied, but was denied for too many inquires (her credit score according to quizzle is 759) so we converted her skymiles card over and lo and behold, she got the 10 welcome points. It's been about 6 weeks and we've spent close to 12k on the cards, so we'll see if she gets the 15k bonus points too. I'm quite hopeful, but you never know.
If someone wants a referral, PM me and I'll give you 5k bonus points!
If someone wants a referral, PM me and I'll give you 5k bonus points!
Universally (ie, at every bank), bonus miles/points/whatever are never given for asking to convert an existing card into a new card.
They are only given if apply for the new card "from scratch".
If you want to try to "consolidate" the two cards later (ie, transfer the credit history and maybe some credit limit from the older card to the new card and then cancel the old card), you can try that. But you have to do it in that order if you want a bonus from the new card.
Keep in mind that the whole point of bonuses is to attract customers who would otherwise not sign up for the card. If you are asking to convert a card, you are demostrating that you would apply anyway, and so no bonus.
The fact that by applying "from scratch" you can apply and get a bonus even though you intended to get the card anyway is a "loophole" (from the standpoint of the bank). They can't read your mind. But they can (and do) design the bonus as an incentive for new accounts, not as in incentive for converted accounts.
They are only given if apply for the new card "from scratch".
If you want to try to "consolidate" the two cards later (ie, transfer the credit history and maybe some credit limit from the older card to the new card and then cancel the old card), you can try that. But you have to do it in that order if you want a bonus from the new card.
Keep in mind that the whole point of bonuses is to attract customers who would otherwise not sign up for the card. If you are asking to convert a card, you are demostrating that you would apply anyway, and so no bonus.
The fact that by applying "from scratch" you can apply and get a bonus even though you intended to get the card anyway is a "loophole" (from the standpoint of the bank). They can't read your mind. But they can (and do) design the bonus as an incentive for new accounts, not as in incentive for converted accounts.