Westin Rio Mar MASTER THREAD (left *wood)
#16
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
While I think that it's unfortunate that this is the way things have to work, I've witnessed a number of cases in which the hotel has decided at the last minute to continue its relationship with Starwood. So, IMO, the fault in this is usually more in the hotel's side of the contract -- not SPG's side.
William, I'm curious here. According to the typical contracts, would the hotels have the right to contact guests in advance to let them know that they would be leaving SPG? IOW, does this restriction apply to both parties in the contract?
William, I'm curious here. According to the typical contracts, would the hotels have the right to contact guests in advance to let them know that they would be leaving SPG? IOW, does this restriction apply to both parties in the contract?
That being said, there are usually no restrictions on the hotel as far as what and when they want to say something, but that does not appear to release us from being restricted. For example, when The Westin Bohemian left, they issued a press release about 6 weeks before departing, but we were prevented from contacting any members until the day they actually left.
Same situation here really. Most FT'er's have known for months that this hotel was becoming a Wyndham, but I could not verify that here or anywhere else for that matter. Some took the step of calling customer service and associates then called the hotel to find out information which they then revealed to members, but, IMHO, that puts us at risk should someone at the hotel take exception to that information being released in advance of their departure.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
#17
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lafayette, CO, USA
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Thanks, William! I think that the thing that seems most unusual to me is that the hotel's website on starwoodhotels.com often has an announcement such as "This hotel will no longer participate in SPG after 5/9/2007." Yet I don't think such announcements are ever included as part of the reservation process.
Is this allowed because the hotel's personalized part of the website (including its announcements) are under total control of the hotel itself?
Is this allowed because the hotel's personalized part of the website (including its announcements) are under total control of the hotel itself?
#18
FlyerTalk Evangelist
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Just be careful not to merge those email addresses into the CC: field when you send 'em... <duck>
#19
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Thanks, William! I think that the thing that seems most unusual to me is that the hotel's website on starwoodhotels.com often has an announcement such as "This hotel will no longer participate in SPG after 5/9/2007." Yet I don't think such announcements are ever included as part of the reservation process.
Is this allowed because the hotel's personalized part of the website (including its announcements) are under total control of the hotel itself?
Is this allowed because the hotel's personalized part of the website (including its announcements) are under total control of the hotel itself?
But, yes...the hotel is in control of what goes online, either directly or by communication with us.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
#20
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP; UA 1K, AS 75K, LT Titanium, Globalist
Posts: 625
hmm, i always like this property. It'll be interesting to see what happens with it.
#21
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: new york, ny, usa
Posts: 13,536
oh, well that's easy.
1) the property is becoming a wyndham
2) the property will still stink if they don't replace the incompetent staff (that all of a sudden forget english as soon as there is a problem).
1) the property is becoming a wyndham
2) the property will still stink if they don't replace the incompetent staff (that all of a sudden forget english as soon as there is a problem).
#22
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: SPG Plat; Hyatt Diamond; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 139
Dukenilnil --
Starwood Lurker posted here a few months back that room bedding reservations were guaranteed within the Starwood network. That was news to me, but others agreed.
If you're quite certain you booked a KING room and didn't receive one while on property, then I'd say you have a case with Starwood Customer Care.
Reference one of the stickys at the top of the Starwood thread page for contact info. Keep us posted.
Starwood Lurker posted here a few months back that room bedding reservations were guaranteed within the Starwood network. That was news to me, but others agreed.
If you're quite certain you booked a KING room and didn't receive one while on property, then I'd say you have a case with Starwood Customer Care.
Reference one of the stickys at the top of the Starwood thread page for contact info. Keep us posted.
Thanks for the help Sbtinme.
#23
Join Date: May 2007
Programs: DL DM, SPG Plat
Posts: 33
Just got back
I checked into the hotel on May 9 with no knowledge that the hotel had just switched to a Wyndham. The staff members were incredibly nice in explaining what had happened, and upgraded me to a great Ocean Suite even though they didn't have to. However, my friends that checked in on May 10th and May 13th (both Plats) were NOT upgraded.
If you have upcoming award reservations, I think it's safe to say that you won't be upgraded to a suite, if that's a dealbreaker for you. However, I can say that the hotel is much nicer now that it's a Wyndham. They have put/are putting in over $100MM in renovations to rooms, pools and casino.
Also, they were in the process of building what looks to be a beautiful Sheraton resort property right next to the Rio Mar Wyndham. No idea of when it will be completed, but it is on top of the rain forest area with AMAZING views.
If you have upcoming award reservations, I think it's safe to say that you won't be upgraded to a suite, if that's a dealbreaker for you. However, I can say that the hotel is much nicer now that it's a Wyndham. They have put/are putting in over $100MM in renovations to rooms, pools and casino.
Also, they were in the process of building what looks to be a beautiful Sheraton resort property right next to the Rio Mar Wyndham. No idea of when it will be completed, but it is on top of the rain forest area with AMAZING views.
#24
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: AMEX, Hyatt, AA
Posts: 161
I checked into the hotel on May 9 with no knowledge that the hotel had just switched to a Wyndham. The staff members were incredibly nice in explaining what had happened, and upgraded me to a great Ocean Suite even though they didn't have to. However, my friends that checked in on May 10th and May 13th (both Plats) were NOT upgraded.
If you have upcoming award reservations, I think it's safe to say that you won't be upgraded to a suite, if that's a dealbreaker for you. However, I can say that the hotel is much nicer now that it's a Wyndham. They have put/are putting in over $100MM in renovations to rooms, pools and casino.
Also, they were in the process of building what looks to be a beautiful Sheraton resort property right next to the Rio Mar Wyndham. No idea of when it will be completed, but it is on top of the rain forest area with AMAZING views.
If you have upcoming award reservations, I think it's safe to say that you won't be upgraded to a suite, if that's a dealbreaker for you. However, I can say that the hotel is much nicer now that it's a Wyndham. They have put/are putting in over $100MM in renovations to rooms, pools and casino.
Also, they were in the process of building what looks to be a beautiful Sheraton resort property right next to the Rio Mar Wyndham. No idea of when it will be completed, but it is on top of the rain forest area with AMAZING views.
Thanks for the update. I have a reservation here for 2/08 using Starpoints. I hope that other members will continue to let us know what is happening with the property.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 15
Bummer! I was thinking of taking my baby there next summer.
Any other recommendations for high quality properties in Puerto Rico?
Any other recommendations for high quality properties in Puerto Rico?