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Starpoint Purchases capped at 20K per year as of 12.7.07

Starpoint Purchases capped at 20K per year as of 12.7.07

 
Old Jan 9, 07, 5:35 am
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Cool Starpoint Purchases capped at 20K per year as of 12.7.07

The annual limit has been raise from 20k to 100k, surely not a good deal at this time, but with some promotions, like 25% or maybe 50%!

So 80 000 SP, cost 2 800$ = 100 000k almost any Good Airlines!

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Old Jan 9, 07, 7:55 am
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Why not 75%?
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Old Jan 9, 07, 8:25 am
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Good news for you Yankees...For some reason, Europeans aren't allowed to buy Starwood points. Is there an official explanation?
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Old Jan 9, 07, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by bjurra View Post
Good news for you Yankees...For some reason, Europeans aren't allowed to buy Starwood points. Is there an official explanation?
Yes. The vendor who does this does not accept international credit cards. The last I heard, they were working on several agreements that would open it up beyond U. S. credit cards, but until they do, it is what it is.

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Old Jan 9, 07, 2:40 pm
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So does anyone know a promotion code for this?
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Old Jan 9, 07, 6:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker View Post
Yes. The vendor who does this does not accept international credit cards. The last I heard, they were working on several agreements that would open it up beyond U. S. credit cards, but until they do, it is what it is.
So technically the offer is NOT limited to US members. It is limited as follows: "You may use any valid American Express, Visa, MasterCard, Discover, or Diners Club card that has a billing address in the 50 U.S., Canada, Guam, Puerto Rico or the Virgin Islands."

If you can get a card with such a billing address, then you can purchase points. I'm sure that there are a number of ways to accomplish this -- especially with reloadable pre-paid credit cards.

And if you know and trust someone else with such a credit card, then you can have someone else purchase Starpoints as a "gift" to you.

I guess couples are now limited to 200K points. 100K per person which can then be transfered between accounts as needed. So 200K Starpoints for $7000 -- enought to get 12 nights (two 5th Night Free + two regular nights) at a Cat6 for an average of $583. Actually not a bad price compared to the $895 BAR (+ 10% taxes) that I saw for W Maldives.

This got me a little intrigued, so I calculated these out. If you were to buy points for a Fifth Night Free award with the $35/1000 points rate, here are the costs. Many may be quite favorable for certain properties on certain dates:
Cat3
28,000 = $980 ($196/nt)

Cat4
40,000 = $1400 ($280/nt)

Cat5
Off-Peak 48,000 = $1680 ($336/nt)
Peak 64,000 = $2240 ($448/nt) (Worth considering: St Regis Aspen in early March)

Cat6
Off-Peak 80,000 = $2800 ($560/nt)
Peak 100,000 = $3500 ($700/nt)

Last edited by sc flier; Jan 9, 07 at 6:22 pm Reason: added costs for 5th night free awards
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Old Jan 9, 07, 7:32 pm
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The price of 3.5 cents per starpoint, in my opinion, is still too high. If I am not mistaken, the consensus here was that each *point should be valued at approximately 2.5 cents/each. Also, I'd be curious to see others weigh in on the value of a starpoint in light of the category creep scheduled to take place in February.
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Old Jan 9, 07, 7:58 pm
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sc flier,
can you give an example of such a reloadable prepaid credit card? I have seen the prepaid Visa, but don't think it's reloadable. It would be very useful for reservations, and for other US bookings like airlines that want a US-issued card
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Old Jan 9, 07, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by starLA View Post
The price of 3.5 cents per starpoint, in my opinion, is still too high. If I am not mistaken, the consensus here was that each *point should be valued at approximately 2.5 cents/each. Also, I'd be curious to see others weigh in on the value of a starpoint in light of the category creep scheduled to take place in February.
Normally I'd agree it is too high, but it really depends where you're going and whether you have an immediate need for points. I just today spent slightly over 77,000 points on the 7 night European Holiday award for Elite level members, using it for a combination of nights at the Westin Excelsior Rome, Westin Excelsior Florence and Westin Europa and Regina in Venice for a trip this coming May. Looking at the lowest available rates for each of those hotels for my nights, had I booked conventionally the total would be 3607 Euros, around $4700 US. I happened to have enough points, but even if I had purchased the 77,000 points for $2695, I'd still have saved $2000.
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Old Jan 9, 07, 9:11 pm
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I guess nothing ever came of Working Advantage's promise to have a new Starpoints program in place by August 2006?

I was happy to have purchased 300,000 starpoints at $2200 per 100,000...wish they would bring that one back.
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Old Jan 9, 07, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by ac/elite View Post
Normally I'd agree it is too high, but it really depends where you're going and whether you have an immediate need for points. I just today spent slightly over 77,000 points on the 7 night European Holiday award for Elite level members, using it for a combination of nights at the Westin Excelsior Rome, Westin Excelsior Florence and Westin Europa and Regina in Venice for a trip this coming May. Looking at the lowest available rates for each of those hotels for my nights, had I booked conventionally the total would be 3607 Euros, around $4700 US. I happened to have enough points, but even if I had purchased the 77,000 points for $2695, I'd still have saved $2000.
Though you are neglecting to add-in the opportunity cost of the points you would have earned had you paid for the stay (assuming elite status and using an Amex SPG): 23,500 SPG points (4700 x 5).
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Old Jan 10, 07, 2:41 am
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I suspect that someone willing to pay for starpoints could do better than these rates over in coupon connection.
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Old Jan 10, 07, 2:55 am
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I have purchased Starpoints before using a European card. I put in a random state and entered my correct (UK) postcode and this worked. Not sure if this is still the case.
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Old Jan 10, 07, 4:05 am
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I purchased before using a European AMEX, my VISA-cards would not work
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Old Jan 10, 07, 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by mattm199 View Post
sc flier,
can you give an example of such a reloadable prepaid credit card? I have seen the prepaid Visa, but don't think it's reloadable. It would be very useful for reservations, and for other US bookings like airlines that want a US-issued card
I can. It's the American Express Travelers Cheque Card:

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