Best rate guarantee - successes and failures 2008 on [Master Thread]
#721
Join Date: Sep 2006
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You can't be serious. In my experience with all BRG claims across different hotel brands including SPG, I have seen most of the time, they are looking for ways to decline the BRG claim instead of verifying whether the claim is genuine and fixing the price from their end(I believe the original objective of the program is to encourage customers to book on their site without having to worry about lowest available price elsewhere).
IMHO, they should verify whether the claim is genuine, if it is then they should fix the price in their end and match the BRG claim(whatever was promised). After all the customer is helping you find the bugs/incorrect price.
Just my 2 cents
IMHO, they should verify whether the claim is genuine, if it is then they should fix the price in their end and match the BRG claim(whatever was promised). After all the customer is helping you find the bugs/incorrect price.
Just my 2 cents
I'd stand by "mistaken" which is wrongly conceived, held, or done: a mistaken antagonism. or erroneous; incorrect; wrong: a mistaken answer or having made a mistake; being in error.
Nobody on this forum should do business with SPG if you truly think they are dishonest - that is just an above and beyond term that hasn't been proven true.
#722
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Final Resolution
AFter two calls back and one hour of holding the BRG representative said the supervisor said Starwood BRG should take responsibility and approve the claim "not because we did anything wrong" but because "we should have known better that Kayak was offering direct rates". When BRG initially rejected the claim they said it was because there were no direct bookings for Kayak. By the third day when they realized that it was possible to make direct bookings the rate was already gone and they had denied it because they said they could not find this published rate.
The person who worked on my claim said they would not take screen shots because people could use Photoshop to compose false rates. He also said the hotels are penalized by Starwood if they sell a rate under the rates offered on the Starwood sites...
The person who worked on my claim said they would not take screen shots because people could use Photoshop to compose false rates. He also said the hotels are penalized by Starwood if they sell a rate under the rates offered on the Starwood sites...
#723
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AFter two calls back and one hour of holding the BRG representative said the supervisor said Starwood BRG should take responsibility and approve the claim "not because we did anything wrong" but because "we should have known better that Kayak was offering direct rates". When BRG initially rejected the claim they said it was because there were no direct bookings for Kayak. By the third day when they realized that it was possible to make direct bookings the rate was already gone and they had denied it because they said they could not find this published rate.
The person who worked on my claim said they would not take screen shots because people could use Photoshop to compose false rates. He also said the hotels are penalized by Starwood if they sell a rate under the rates offered on the Starwood sites...
The person who worked on my claim said they would not take screen shots because people could use Photoshop to compose false rates. He also said the hotels are penalized by Starwood if they sell a rate under the rates offered on the Starwood sites...
#724
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Times Square
Programs: SPG Gold, AAdvantage
Posts: 1,397
My personal experience tells me that Hilton BRG is really a joke compared to all others. I once booked a hotel from Hilton's own website and then found a much lower rate at expedia (both refundable rate). I submitted a claim and was denied. I was told that with Hilton rate, I pay the rate when I check in. but with expedia, I pay when I make the reservation. So they are not the same rate!!
Yes OP, go over and read the success of Hilton's best rate guarantee. Hilton will truly appreciate your business should you leave SPG for them.
#725
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Minneapolis
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They ignore refundability because all rates are refundable on spg.com with respect to BRG. Regardless of the rate being compared, you can book a fully refundable rate on spg.com after being accepted. As long as the room type is the same, they don't care.
I can usually get 3-4 per year, but there are others who get BRG claims on pretty much all their stays.
I can usually get 3-4 per year, but there are others who get BRG claims on pretty much all their stays.
I don't really understand what you mean....
#726
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I have only been able to execute two successful BRG claims for the entire time I have been with SPG. My hassle-free claim was for the Le Meridien Grand Pacific Tokyo Hotel (no longer w/ SPG). That was back in '07. A year later, like you, my hassle-filled claim was for the Sheraton Barra da Tjiuca Hotel & Suites. SPG did not want to honour my BRG claim because they didn't acknowledge it, took to long to research it, and/or did not want to process it. I complained to customer service, and ended up getting 2000 *pts for my efforts, and a rate that was even lower than the rate I found on Expedia.
In general, I find that these hotel companies (especially Hilton) have a solid lock on the prices that third-party vendors offer. There is no variation/deviation from the BAR. The only time you can get a deal from these vendors is when they offer a coupon, which means no *pts. At best, it's a cr*psh**t, but not necessarily dishonest.
Sorry.
In general, I find that these hotel companies (especially Hilton) have a solid lock on the prices that third-party vendors offer. There is no variation/deviation from the BAR. The only time you can get a deal from these vendors is when they offer a coupon, which means no *pts. At best, it's a cr*psh**t, but not necessarily dishonest.
Sorry.
I just did a quick search in the BRG thread, and I have posted 20 BRGs that I have found/booked since May 2008. (I'm relatively new to SPG and BRGs and I struggle to make my 25 stays per year.) I don't think I even posted them all, plus I haven't listed all the ones I've found for friends. So yes, it can be done!
OTOH, I've had ZERO luck with Hilton. Don't stay there anymore either.
#727
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Let's say you find a valid BRG by comparing SPG's non-refundable rate with another site's refundable rate. Once it's approved, you do not have to book that non-refundable rate on spg.com. Book any rate you want that has the same room type (assuming it doesn't have additional features), refundable or not.
#728
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lafayette, CO, USA
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All the things that get reported on FT, customer services frustrations, unrealized expectations, etc. have occurred since time began. However, in today's Internet, Facebook, Foursquare, Twitter, need everyone to know everything happening to me in real time culture, many on FT feel they must share every single, solitary customer experience issue they have with 5000 of their closet friends, while sitting around liquored up in their underwear, hovering over the warm glow of LCD screens rather than simply handling the issue as they would for any other customer issue they might have with their plumber, auto mechanic, florist, etc.
Suit yourself (no pun intended), but I'm inclined to go get a mid-day drink! I think I've been doing this whole social networking thing the wrong way!
#729
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 6
Second successful BRG claim this weekend:
Hotel Name: The Fairfax at Embassy Row, Washington, D.C.
Arrival Date: 04-30-2011
Departure Date: 05-01-2011
Room Type: superior
Actual confirmed rate: $160.99 USD + taxes (Expedia)
SPG Rate: $179
Claim reference number: 201104236924
Chose 2,000 Points.
Hotel Name: The Fairfax at Embassy Row, Washington, D.C.
Arrival Date: 04-30-2011
Departure Date: 05-01-2011
Room Type: superior
Actual confirmed rate: $160.99 USD + taxes (Expedia)
SPG Rate: $179
Claim reference number: 201104236924
Chose 2,000 Points.
#730
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Welcome to FT jasonwc! Congrats on your 2 BRGs, however, for this to be helpful to anyone else, you would need to tell us where you found the competing rates. Please feel free to edit your posts and add this information.
Thanks!
Thanks!
#731
Join Date: Sep 2005
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The second one says Expedia. I know that the first one is (or at least was) available from otel.com.
#732
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#733
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Because, as I stated in my earlier post, FT seems to have created and almost celebrates a culture that thrives on melodramatic statements that are made primarily out of initial, emotional reactions.
All the things that get reported on FT, customer services frustrations, unrealized expectations, etc. have occurred since time began. However, in today's Internet, Facebook, Foursquare, Twitter, need everyone to know everything happening to me in real time culture, many on FT feel they must share every single, solitary customer experience issue they have with 5000 of their closest friends, while sitting around liquored up in their underwear, hovering over the warm glow of LCD screens rather than simply handling the issue as they would for any other customer issue they might have with their plumber, auto mechanic, florist, etc.
And perhaps more sadly, many of these threads on FT end up with both the most views and the most posts.s
All the things that get reported on FT, customer services frustrations, unrealized expectations, etc. have occurred since time began. However, in today's Internet, Facebook, Foursquare, Twitter, need everyone to know everything happening to me in real time culture, many on FT feel they must share every single, solitary customer experience issue they have with 5000 of their closest friends, while sitting around liquored up in their underwear, hovering over the warm glow of LCD screens rather than simply handling the issue as they would for any other customer issue they might have with their plumber, auto mechanic, florist, etc.
And perhaps more sadly, many of these threads on FT end up with both the most views and the most posts.s
#734
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 6
Sorry about that. The first price was quoted from Otel.com (and was still available yesterday at the lower price). The second quote was from Expedia, and was an expired Starpick from this week.
#735
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Minneapolis
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Let's say you find a valid BRG by comparing SPG's non-refundable rate with another site's refundable rate. Once it's approved, you do not have to book that non-refundable rate on spg.com. Book any rate you want that has the same room type (assuming it doesn't have additional features), refundable or not.