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SkyTeam777 Jan 1, 2008 6:56 pm

The Westin Dawn Beach Resort & Spa, St. Maarten, [CLOSED, hurricane] [Master Thread]
 
Im thinking of renting a car from the airport to the hotel. How easy and how far is it to go from the hotel to St. Martin for the day? or to the ferry dock to Anguilla?

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gozetta Jan 1, 2008 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 8986357)
Im thinking of renting a car from the airport to the hotel. How easy and how far is it to go from the hotel to St. Martin for the day? or to the ferry dock to Anguilla?

Riding from the airport to the hotel is about 20-30 mins, traveling slow on winding roads (make SURE you have good maps and I don't recommend doing it at night time) From the hotel to St. Martin, it's about 2 minutes down the road before you cross the "border"!!! The hotel is on the northern part of the St. Maarten border and keep in mind, there is no passport display or change of guard as you cross between the two. You may not even realize that you are now paying Euros prices until you get the bill. The gastronomical feasts are in Grand Case (about 15 mins from the hotel).

To get to Anguilla, you need to get to Marigot Bay, take the ferry from there. And, I HIGHLY recommend going to Anguilla, checking out Shoal Bay and/or the Cuisinart or Cap Juluca beaches---the BEST in the Caribbean and I've sailed ALL of the lesser Antilles evaluating them!!!! The beaches in Anguilla are like no other--they remind me of baking flour, just incredible. You WILL need your passport to check-in at both the Marigot dock and at the dock in Anguilla.

I love St. Barts too, but the ferry ride is a bit longer, and you can spend $300 for lunch at Nikki Beach!!!!

Needless to say, I'm heartbroken the property on Anguilla is no longer SPG :(

SkyTeam777 Jan 3, 2008 1:44 pm

Is gas expensive on SXM and does an American driver's license suffice on both sides of the island?

gozetta Jan 3, 2008 3:06 pm


Originally Posted by SkyTeam777 (Post 8997590)
Is gas expensive on SXM and does an American driver's license suffice on both sides of the island?

US Driver license: OK on both sides of the island. Not sure about gas prices. You'll be shocked at the customs/immigration process at the Dutch airport--very lax. In fact, I don't even think there was a customs search, only a brief passport review.

SkyTeam777 Jan 3, 2008 3:18 pm

Thanks...what I remember from my last trip through the Caribbean was that each airport socked it to you with a departure tax...will be at AXA, ANU and SXM on this trip. I hope they accept credit cards!

Da5id Jan 6, 2008 5:49 pm

Does anyone have any recommendations for golf? Also will I need to convert to Euros or are American dollars accepted? Do Golds have any experiences with upgrades other than the recent poster? Is February a good time weather wise? TIA

SkyTeam777 Jan 9, 2008 1:38 pm

Ive found the wifi here to be terribly slow...do you have to request turndown service to receive these lovely Platinum goodies? No gifts as mentioned by others have come by to my room in the evenings.

lerasp Jan 9, 2008 2:56 pm

just returned
 
I just came back from St.Marten last night. Had a lovely stay at the Westin for 6 nights. It's interesting that experiences seem so uneven. I'm Plat and was upgraded to Oceanfront room, but alas not suite. Not a surprise, since it's busy season. however, when I asked about a suite at checkin, I was told "we don't upgrade Plats to suites". this called for a manager, who clarified that there were no suites available. hmmm..
no evening amenities at all. bottle of water 4 out of 6 days. had to call to have coffee machine restocked with coffee, sugar, etc. the hotel is beautiful, but i felt no warmth toward Plats, only the minimum required by the book. we rented a car at the airport from Budget. Renting a car is the way to go. just the ride alone to the hotel (about 20-30 min) is worth it. plus Westin is a bit out of the way and it's a 15-25 min ride to restaurants. Enjoyed the island and the beach in front of Westin is great. Snorkeling was very bad, but maybe we didn't find the right spots.
one thing that really pissed me off - they absolutely refused late checkout! i understand they are not required, and I spoke extensively to the manager, but not to even meet me halfway! my flight was at 6pm and we had to leave the room at 12. for that alone, i will not go back there. Westins in Aruba and Grand Cayman are good enough of substitutes.

gozetta Jan 9, 2008 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by lerasp (Post 9037208)
I just came back from St.Marten last night. Had a lovely stay at the Westin for 6 nights. It's interesting that experiences seem so uneven. I'm Plat and was upgraded to Oceanfront room, but alas not suite. Not a surprise, since it's busy season. however, when I asked about a suite at checkin, I was told "we don't upgrade Plats to suites". this called for a manager, who clarified that there were no suites available. hmmm..
no evening amenities at all. bottle of water 4 out of 6 days. had to call to have coffee machine restocked with coffee, sugar, etc. the hotel is beautiful, but i felt no warmth toward Plats, only the minimum required by the book. we rented a car at the airport from Budget. Renting a car is the way to go. just the ride alone to the hotel (about 20-30 min) is worth it. plus Westin is a bit out of the way and it's a 15-25 min ride to restaurants. Enjoyed the island and the beach in front of Westin is great. Snorkeling was very bad, but maybe we didn't find the right spots.
one thing that really pissed me off - they absolutely refused late checkout! i understand they are not required, and I spoke extensively to the manager, but not to even meet me halfway! my flight was at 6pm and we had to leave the room at 12. for that alone, i will not go back there. Westins in Aruba and Grand Cayman are good enough of substitutes.

Bummer. I would generally agree with you but keeping in mind that:

* the property is a steal at 10,000 points per night (cat 4 for now compared to GCM cat 5)
* there are only a few Ocean Front rooms (4 per floor as far as I could tell)
* there aren't any suites at all, except for the Presidential (not confirmed, but certainly couldn't book a suite online, even checking rack rates--would like someone to confirm this)
* St. Maarten has so much more to offer with ferries to St. Barts and Anguilla, and the excellent cuisine in Grand Case
* Much better lobby than GCM with the bar, nightclub, and "just right" sized casino
* never been upgraded to a suite at GCM, apparently there are only two and no plats get them
* fresh rooms with flat screens/leather chairs (GCM rooms are getting tired)


Don't get me wrong, I love Grand Cayman too and have been many times but for my beach fix, I'm back to SXM every time. Funny, I believe both properties are owned by the same guy in Cincinatti (Columbia Sussex).

As far as snorkeling, you were at the best spot on the island (Dawn beach)! The island is definitely not very good for snorkel/scuba.

thor17 Jan 9, 2008 6:03 pm

I think time of the year makes all the difference. When I went in August (low season) as a Gold, they seemed to really spoil us. There are definitely more than 4 ocean front rooms per floor. When facing the pool from the beach, the wing to the right has the Presidential Suite at the corner, and then the whole way down the building are all oceanfront rooms. From my pictures, I can count at least 15-16 on all 3 floors. Then I think the other wing mirrors it.

bsdstone Jan 9, 2008 6:38 pm

Thor17,
We are headed there in April...do you have your pics posted anywhere that we can view them?

crazyhorse Jan 9, 2008 6:47 pm

Anyone know about the hotel condos at the Westin St Martin?
 
There is a small writeup in this month's Conde Nast Traveller about the Westin St Martin building condo suites and offering attractive lease back terms.
I called the number listed and found out that you can buy a 3 Bed/2 Bath suite from $650K to 1.5M (depending on view) and all you have to do is put down 25%. The Westin finances you the rest at 6.75% for a standard 25 or 30 year fixed rate mortgage and then leases the property back from you for a price equal to your monthly mortgage payment as well as any maintenance charges. Also you can use your condo for 4 weeks a year (2 weeks off season and 2 weeks peak season). Ofcourse there are some blackout dates too like Xmas and New Years.
Anyone biting on this?

lerasp Jan 9, 2008 9:35 pm

you are correct about condos
 
you have it exactly right. there are 4 buildings. one building is directly on the beach (all those units are $1.5m). the other buildings are up on the hill at various angles to the water. short walk down to the beach. all units are 3bd/2bath. lease program is guaranteed for 5 years. furnishings in rooms are great (dark wood, leather lounge chair, fantastic bed, plasma tv, huge bathroom with small bath and huge glass shower). i imagine condos will be even nicer

SkyTeam777 Jan 10, 2008 8:27 am

What's the deal with being charged a $10 resort charge for award rates? They dont even tell you what it is for?! What a ripoff!

lerasp Jan 10, 2008 12:29 pm

weird. our resort charge was $5. i was going to fight it, but I already had enough arguing with front desk over late checkout and wrong telephone charge that i didn't have the mental energy for it. annoying.


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