Official Announcement: SPG and Marriott Programs to Merge on August 18th
#256
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Why make a decision now based on guesses when there's no harm in waiting until more facts are in?
(Yes, there are lot more facts now than back in April, but there will be even more facts, after Aug 18, after we see what the new website[s] actually show[s], for example.)
#257
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NYC
Programs: UA 1PMM; Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 26
Stays over the 18th
What happens to people who are in the middle of a stay on the 18th? Consider the case of someone with 40 Marriott nights and 10 SPG nights, who checks into a Marriott/Starwood on Aug 17, with a checkout date of Aug 20, and with no status from last year. So that person would be Marriott Silver and Starwood SIlver at checkin time. On Aug 18 (or whenever the systems come up again), the person combines the accounts, and, with 50 combined nights, is now Platinum in the new program.
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
#258
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bangkok
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Titanium, BAEC Silver, TK Miles & Smiles Elite
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What happens to people who are in the middle of a stay on the 18th? Consider the case of someone with 40 Marriott nights and 10 SPG nights, who checks into a Marriott/Starwood on Aug 17, with a checkout date of Aug 20, and with no status from last year. So that person would be Marriott Silver and Starwood SIlver at checkin time. On Aug 18 (or whenever the systems come up again), the person combines the accounts, and, with 50 combined nights, is now Platinum in the new program.
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
I think your case is no different to, for example, someone who checks in with 48 nights (Gold) for a four-night stay and technically qualifies as Platinum during that stay after the second night. The status will not show up until the stay's nights have posted after check out. In such a case, I'd guess it's up to the hotel to grant you Platinum benefits on the 3rd and 4th night. Good luck with that, eh.
#259
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: United Kingdom
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What happens to people who are in the middle of a stay on the 18th? Consider the case of someone with 40 Marriott nights and 10 SPG nights, who checks into a Marriott/Starwood on Aug 17, with a checkout date of Aug 20, and with no status from last year. So that person would be Marriott Silver and Starwood SIlver at checkin time. On Aug 18 (or whenever the systems come up again), the person combines the accounts, and, with 50 combined nights, is now Platinum in the new program.
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
#260
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: DUS
Programs: BA Gold, A3*G, HH DIA, SPG Plat
Posts: 160
What happens to people who are in the middle of a stay on the 18th? Consider the case of someone with 40 Marriott nights and 10 SPG nights, who checks into a Marriott/Starwood on Aug 17, with a checkout date of Aug 20, and with no status from last year. So that person would be Marriott Silver and Starwood SIlver at checkin time. On Aug 18 (or whenever the systems come up again), the person combines the accounts, and, with 50 combined nights, is now Platinum in the new program.
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Now it looks like the later start of the new program somehow cheats me out of my breakfast. That is... underwhelming but maybe a friction in all the process I have to deal with.
But do you think the property has to grant me free breakfast in the morning of 18th, 19th and 20th? Or are the benefits depending on the date of check-in?
#261
Join Date: Nov 2013
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But if you can see that you are Platinum on the 19th then discuss it with the hotel.
However I'd budget for paying for breakfast!
#262
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I suggest everyone should take a screenshot of their accounts a few days before the 18th.
#263
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: DUS
Programs: BA Gold, A3*G, HH DIA, SPG Plat
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I would have thought so, but they have to be able to see in their system that you are Platinum. Firstly you will need to merge your accounts, which I suspect you won't be able to do until the 19th (or at least after the down time on the 18th), and then your status has to update which may take 24 hours.
But if you can see that you are Platinum on the 19th then discuss it with the hotel.
However I'd budget for paying for breakfast!
But if you can see that you are Platinum on the 19th then discuss it with the hotel.
However I'd budget for paying for breakfast!
#264
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
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What happens to people who are in the middle of a stay on the 18th? Consider the case of someone with 40 Marriott nights and 10 SPG nights, who checks into a Marriott/Starwood on Aug 17, with a checkout date of Aug 20, and with no status from last year. So that person would be Marriott Silver and Starwood SIlver at checkin time. On Aug 18 (or whenever the systems come up again), the person combines the accounts, and, with 50 combined nights, is now Platinum in the new program.
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
Does that person get guaranteed 4pm checkout on the 20th?
I do hope they don't hit any major snags with the conversion, but Prudence says it may be wise to hold off to see how things go (and she is usually right).
#265
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#266
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Little Ferry, NJ
Programs: UA GS / 1MM, MR Ambassador / LTTE, Hertz Platinum
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So current SPG member here. A couple of questions:
1) Is it possible to get Lifetime Platinum Premiere as a Starwood member if you hit 10 years and 750 nights combined?
If so, right now I have the following:
SPG: 8 years Platinum 574 nights
Marriott: 85 nights and 0 years platinum
I will get one more year this year as platinum.
My question is that If I were to book 100 night lets say and find a way to get platinum this year as well. Would that give me 750 nights and 9 years plat on SPG and 1 year Plat on Marriott? If so maybe I would spend the extra $2,000 or $3,000 to get the lifetime PP status.
1) Is it possible to get Lifetime Platinum Premiere as a Starwood member if you hit 10 years and 750 nights combined?
If so, right now I have the following:
SPG: 8 years Platinum 574 nights
Marriott: 85 nights and 0 years platinum
I will get one more year this year as platinum.
My question is that If I were to book 100 night lets say and find a way to get platinum this year as well. Would that give me 750 nights and 9 years plat on SPG and 1 year Plat on Marriott? If so maybe I would spend the extra $2,000 or $3,000 to get the lifetime PP status.
#267
Join Date: Feb 2012
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So current SPG member here. A couple of questions:
1) Is it possible to get Lifetime Platinum Premiere as a Starwood member if you hit 10 years and 750 nights combined?
If so, right now I have the following:
SPG: 8 years Platinum 574 nights
Marriott: 85 nights and 0 years platinum
I will get one more year this year as platinum.
My question is that If I were to book 100 night lets say and find a way to get platinum this year as well. Would that give me 750 nights and 9 years plat on SPG and 1 year Plat on Marriott? If so maybe I would spend the extra $2,000 or $3,000 to get the lifetime PP status.
1) Is it possible to get Lifetime Platinum Premiere as a Starwood member if you hit 10 years and 750 nights combined?
If so, right now I have the following:
SPG: 8 years Platinum 574 nights
Marriott: 85 nights and 0 years platinum
I will get one more year this year as platinum.
My question is that If I were to book 100 night lets say and find a way to get platinum this year as well. Would that give me 750 nights and 9 years plat on SPG and 1 year Plat on Marriott? If so maybe I would spend the extra $2,000 or $3,000 to get the lifetime PP status.
In reality you would only need 50 MR nights to qualify for gold = 1 additional "Plat" year in the combined program. But since you're 91 nights short in your case, that doesn't matter.
Best option in your case would be to get 10 EQN per meeting with Rewarding Events. You have until the 17th to get your 9 meetings completed:
Platinum Status in Eight Days and $800 - No Stays Required
#268
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Best option in your case would be to get 10 EQN per meeting with Rewarding Events. You have until the 17th to get your 9 meetings completed:
Platinum Status in Eight Days and $800 - No Stays Required
Best option in your case would be to get 10 EQN per meeting with Rewarding Events. You have until the 17th to get your 9 meetings completed:
Platinum Status in Eight Days and $800 - No Stays Required
#269
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
You cannot combine nights from the two programs and still qualify under the legacy rules. If you need to combine nights you will need to qualify under the new rules which will require 600 nights for LTP. 500 nights still puts you at LTG in the new program. There are specific rules for LTPP which allow combining nights but these are under the new rules, not the legacy rules, and would not apply to your situation as those require 750 nights. It sounds like the CSR is confusing the two different rules.
#270
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You cannot combine nights from the two programs and still qualify under the legacy rules. If you need to combine nights you will need to qualify under the new rules which will require 600 nights for LTP. 500 nights still puts you at LTG in the new program. There are specific rules for LTPP which allow combining nights but these are under the new rules, not the legacy rules, and would not apply to your situation as those require 750 nights. It sounds like the CSR is confusing the two different rules.
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