TravelinSperry

So try a bogus booking for the Sheraton Grande Sukhumvit on July 27-29. Same issue occurs, price for 2 is higher than 1. Since it may sell out by the time you check, I've attached screenshots. Now you can't say you've never seen it.

And as others are stating in this thread... you can see it in Japan and Germany too. In fact, I have numerous reservations at properties where this occurs. Make a bogus booking in Paphos, Cyprus (there is only one Starwood). Try Sep 8-10 for example and watch the rates skyrocket for 2 (over 100 Euro extra per night for that extra person!). It happens all over the world. Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It happens.




2 adults is clearly more at this property, see below

porkie

This is for luxury room which is inclusive breakfast and evening cocktails, any standard room that doesn't come with extras like this will cost exactly the same regardless of number of persons. I have also checked SPG hotels in Tokyo, price is the same for 1 and 2 persons for any given range of dates.

dsquared37

And apparently the answer to my query is 'yes'.

dsquared37

Nope, I still haven't seen it. You're looking at a package rate not a standard room rate. Look at any date that has standard rooms available and you'll see how specious your argument is.

Last I looked Japan, Germany and Cyprus aren't in Thailand so while it may by true in those countries it isn't germane in a conversation about Thailand hotels.

Nope. You cherry picked a package rate, not a standard room. You are presenting information that doesn't support your hypothesis.

Dr. HFH

Exactly. As dsquared37 first mentioned and porkie elaborated, standard rooms are sold out for those dates; and you were looking at a package price. The package includes: butler service, full buffet breakfast, high speed internet, cocktails and hors d'oeuvres 1800-2000 in all locations but the Living Room, where it is 1600-2000.

I just checked a standard room for a random set of dates in October (Oct. 12-16). Prices for one and two people are the same.

SQTraveller

Just to clarify from my experience, I called the hotel, and they said that it is THB500 more per night per person.

yurtripper

I spent 6 weeks there in 2005, about half of that was in Hokkaido.
Although as it was part of an 18-month RTW I didn't stay in any hotel worthy of the name, mostly hostel dorms (no need to worry about double occupancy surcharge in a 12-bed dorm!).

TravelinSperry

Dsquared - your quote above said you've "never seen a rate change for a 2nd guest in BKK." Nothing about certain rates or certain rooms. Just "never". So here I've shown you that it does exist. Now, I never claimed it exists on all room types and/or rates. In fact, I specifically said it depends on the rate/room type booked. I'm also guessing you don't believe the OP who called the Westin and was told it would be 500 Baht extra. I'm sure you will deny it, since this fact doesn't support your hypothesis

Anyway, the facts are the OP is dealing with a 500 Baht increase. And I've had to deal with it as well - yes, on rates when breakfast was included. Does it not count due to this fact? Sometimes it costs more for 2... other times, it does not. Glad to hear you've never had to deal with it. If you can book my BKK rooms going forward and save me some coin, I'd appreciate it.

dsquared37

In my searches I have never seen it. Factual. You claimed it happens often. Not factual.

/shrug

Dr. HFH

Well, if you're going to parse out the specific language at that level of detail.... We're talking about room rates. And dsquared37 is correct. There's no additional charge for another person in the room. You're not talking about the room; you're talking about breakfast, happy hour cocktails, etc., all add-ons to the room. For those things, yes, there is an additional charge for an additional person. For the room, there is not.

CPRich

But we were told that never happens......

CPRich

If you're going to be pedantic, be accurate. What you actually said was

dsquared37

And calls to a hotel are always met with accurate information.

/shrug

Dr. HFH

Yes, that's what I said. And it's generally accepted as a permissible usage. The construction is similar to using the plural instead of "he or she" to avoid awkward construction, as in, "When I see a friend, I give them a hug" instead of "When I see a friend, I give him or her a hug." According to the OED, while some may consider this gramatically incorrect, it is actually a practice which began in the 16th century and is generally accepted.

And now back to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.

TravelinSperry

I'm not talking about any of those extras. Unfortunately the hotel doesn't separate such. They force the increase on us, even if the residents do not avail of breakfast, happy hour, etc. They simply raise the rate for the 2nd person. It is you who assume it is for extras. The OP who called did not specify whether or why the increase was quoted. Simply that it is an extra 500 THB to add another guest. You assume (and I don't disagree) that it is for these extras. Now, I too would assume that would be their rationale - but it is irrelevant as there is no way for the OP (or anyone else) to avoid this fee, even without said usage. It's sort of like a resort fee, forced upon us. Now the weird thing is that sometimes it is forced upon us - and other times not. It all depends on the room and rate you book. The OP wasn't clear what room/rate he booked. Perhaps he booked a base rate without butler, breakfast, etc.?