SPG Member Account Integrity Restricting Accounts
According to a post on One Mile at a Time from yesterday, it sounds like Starwood is restricting accounts of people why have frequent cancellations at new build SPG properties. Has anyone else experienced this?
This is the letter OMAAT posted: Dear SPG® Member, If you are receiving this message, access to your account has been temporarily disabled as your account appears to be included in one or more of the emerging trends described below: Confirm reservations for grand opening dates at SPG® participating hotels with an invalid guarantee method While we greatly appreciate genuine interest in experiencing any Marriott property, there have been reports of invalid guarantee methods being used for rooms reserved at hotels that have announced their grand opening date. This is of great concern to us and the hotels as some of these reservations are either canceled late or not at all leaving the hotels with no recourse for recovering the lost revenue as the reserved rooms sit empty on opening day. This message serves as a reminder that any reservation confirmed with a credit card that will not authorize the forfeiture amount is subject to cancelation at any time and without notice. Hotels have been advised to preauthorize the late cancel penalty amount as soon as the reservations show active in their systems and to cancel any booking where the credit card declines. Request compensation for delayed hotel opening While our hotels will absolutely consider compensating any guest for genuine inconveniences or issues they determine they are responsible for, a pattern is developing which increases our concern as to the authenticity of some of these reservations. Please understand we have placed your account on an alert list and are monitoring all pre-opening reservations at SPG® participating hotels. Please reply acknowledging receipt and your understanding of this message so that we may reactivate your account. Sincerely, SPG® Member Account Integrity |
Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 29924950)
According to a post on One Mile at a Time from yesterday, it sounds like Starwood is restricting accounts of people why have frequent cancellations at new build SPG properties. Has anyone else experienced this?
This is the letter OMAAT posted: Dear SPG® Member, If you are receiving this message, access to your account has been temporarily disabled as your account appears to be included in one or more of the emerging trends described below: Confirm reservations for grand opening dates at SPG® participating hotels with an invalid guarantee method . . . Request compensation for delayed hotel opening . . . Please understand we have placed your account on an alert list and are monitoring all pre-opening reservations at SPG® participating hotels. Please reply acknowledging receipt and your understanding of this message so that we may reactivate your account. Sincerely, SPG® Member Account Integrity |
are they using prepaid cards or something?
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I would encourage any one with interest to use the link provided by donotblink to go to the One Mile at a Time article.
I would cite two elements, emphasis mine:
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ah, 2 different issues
may be blanket email to multiple accounts or an automatic email
Originally Posted by donotblink
(Post 29924950)
reservation confirmed with a credit card that will not authorize the forfeiture amount is subject to cancelation at any time and without notice. Hotels have been advised to preauthorize the late cancel penalty amount as soon as the reservations show active in their systems and to cancel any booking where the credit card declines.
Request compensation for delayed hotel opening While our hotels will absolutely consider compensating any guest for genuine inconveniences or issues they determine they are responsible for, a pattern is developing which increases our concern as to the authenticity of some of these reservations. Please understand we have placed your account on an alert list and are monitoring all pre-opening reservations at SPG® participating hotels. Please reply acknowledging receipt and your understanding of this message so that we may reactivate your account. if people pay the cancellation fee, and its 100%, there would be no problem with not staying at opening deposits and requiring advance payment are also not uncommon, especially higher rates / upscale if some are trying to not have credit card guarantee, thats not going to work |
I can only recall one or two times where I have tried to book a hotel for a grand opening, and in the case of the Le Meridien Oran....the delays went on for months and months, which caused challenges in getting my visa issued as you need a welcome letter from the place you will be staying. The GM was apologetic, but at no time did I seek compensation.
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It’s funny- I never have booked a Grand Opening that I can remember but this morning was looking at the new Westin in Carlsbad for 1 night when we take our grandson to Legoland. I have to admit this thread gave me pause. We ended up deciding on the Sheraton anyways because of the private entrance to the park, which is a huge benefit, but I would have been nervous booking the Westin because of this thread. |
I hope this is a measure targeted specifically to hotel openings. I cancel a lot of reservations, both in the course of making bookings and because I usually book way ahead, and sometimes my travel plans change or I find better rates. Occasionally I also book more than one property at the same destination, to have a greater choice. However, very rarely do I cancel close to the cancellation deadline. For example, during the recent BRG debacle I booked and cancelled 50+ stays until I finally got my claims approved. Preauthorizing the cancellation penalty is also not an option. Not only it is not on the reservation’s t&c (some properties at Marriott do have language to that effect, I usually don’t book those) as someone, like myself, who books several stays months ahead cannot have multiple holds put on the cc without the risk of running out of credit. |
Originally Posted by M.dA.R.
(Post 29926238)
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I hope this is a measure targeted specifically to hotel openings. hotels that have announced their grand opening date. reserved rooms sit empty on opening day. Request compensation for delayed hotel opening |
cancellations are common, hotels need to change their policies if they ever have issues, kind of like airlines, for example airlines stopping refunds of full fare F at the gate
doesnt pre authorizing just check rather than putting a hold? when credit card guarantee is required, and not given, could end up being fraud at some point is some of this related to award stays? seem to recall some could still require credit card and charge |
This appear to be someone regularly making reservations at soon-to-open properties, using invalid methods of guaranteeing the reservation, for the purpose of requesting compensation when the opening is pushed back.
I'm not clear on how "cancellations are common, hotels need to change their policies " relates to this practice. |
I read on this very forum that there are people that have gotten tens of thousands of points by booking and cancelling hotels that are not open yet. so this is a common practice
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Originally Posted by sandyph
(Post 29927716)
I read on this very forum that there are people that have gotten tens of thousands of points by booking and cancelling hotels that are not open yet. so this is a common practice
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It's great to know the SPG Member Account Integrity team is actively catching scammers.
I can understand why the franchise hotel will have a legit dispute if lots of rooms booked under the SPG system ended up in default (ie guest not showing up). It's not just a hit in revenue but also an embarrassment on grand opening with fewer guests than anticipated. Sometimes you don't even know if the scammers are SPG members or rival hotel's hit job. |
Originally Posted by spgplat21
(Post 29927808)
If they were legitimate bookings to begin with, I don't think there are any issues with receiving compensation. It sounds like what was happening in these cases went well beyond what I've read about here.
I don't book brand new hotels (open less than a month) because I don't like being a test subject. I also have never received compensation for not having a hotel open for a reservation. |
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