Article: How Sheraton lost its way and Marriott's plans to bring it back
Jun 24, 2018, 8:24 am
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Jun 24, 2018, 8:26 am
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Interesting.
I’ve not stayed at so many Marriott hotels yet but in Asia I’ve been working on the assumption that JW = Sheraton Grand, Marriott = Sheraton, Courtyard = Four Points and Renaissance = Westin (and RC = StR if we have to keep going on).
Just talking about my perception of the brands.
I usually target Le Meridiens first if there is one because Sheratons of all types tend to be less characterful and more dated places. Depending on price Alofts can get my money and sometimes Westins. Actually, the Westin brand means even less to me than Sheraton except probably a bit newer hotel. But in my experience it really depends on the individual hotel rather than the brand. in Guangzhou the Sheraton is definitely a better hotel for Platinums than the Marriott which is not to put the Marriott down. Both have good lounges and service but the Marriott suite was bizarrely laid out and dated while last weekend we got a great suite at the Sheraton and their pool is large and outdoors.
If the Sheraton brand gets an update like these pics then I could find myself seeking them out more.
I’ve not stayed at so many Marriott hotels yet but in Asia I’ve been working on the assumption that JW = Sheraton Grand, Marriott = Sheraton, Courtyard = Four Points and Renaissance = Westin (and RC = StR if we have to keep going on).
Just talking about my perception of the brands.
I usually target Le Meridiens first if there is one because Sheratons of all types tend to be less characterful and more dated places. Depending on price Alofts can get my money and sometimes Westins. Actually, the Westin brand means even less to me than Sheraton except probably a bit newer hotel. But in my experience it really depends on the individual hotel rather than the brand. in Guangzhou the Sheraton is definitely a better hotel for Platinums than the Marriott which is not to put the Marriott down. Both have good lounges and service but the Marriott suite was bizarrely laid out and dated while last weekend we got a great suite at the Sheraton and their pool is large and outdoors.
If the Sheraton brand gets an update like these pics then I could find myself seeking them out more.
Jun 24, 2018, 8:50 am
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Someone from AP was writing an article, reached out and wound up quoting me and using the experience in the article.
Jun 24, 2018, 10:39 am
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I notice the sink in the new brand standard: this looks to me like they’re following the trend for it having separate bathrooms - something which I think would be a major mistake, along with the removal of the desk.
Jun 24, 2018, 10:51 am
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I know there's a whole spectrum of superb-to-garbage properties under the Sheraton brand umbrella, but signaling general attributes is what master brands are for, and my default perception of the Sheraton brand is that it's still 1973 in there.
It still evokes the primitive, lower-caste faux-elegance of places my parents took me for Sunday brunch during the Nixon administration. Tired, sometimes garish, often junky. The few Sheraton stays I've had in this century (I was among the last guests at Crystal City before they closed it down to make it into a Westin) have done nothing to modify my view. I can find no reason to choose a Sheraton.
It still evokes the primitive, lower-caste faux-elegance of places my parents took me for Sunday brunch during the Nixon administration. Tired, sometimes garish, often junky. The few Sheraton stays I've had in this century (I was among the last guests at Crystal City before they closed it down to make it into a Westin) have done nothing to modify my view. I can find no reason to choose a Sheraton.
Jun 24, 2018, 10:53 am
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I didnt realize the desk was such a big deal to everyone. I have always considered it a waste of space. I definitely like the space setup in the new design above as it seems better suited for multi-purpose.
Jun 24, 2018, 5:12 pm
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Jun 24, 2018, 11:59 pm
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Jun 25, 2018, 10:56 am
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Interesting.
I’ve not stayed at so many Marriott hotels yet but in Asia I’ve been working on the assumption that JW = Sheraton Grand, Marriott = Sheraton, Courtyard = Four Points and Renaissance = Westin (and RC = StR if we have to keep going on).
Just talking about my perception of the brands.
I usually target Le Meridiens first if there is one because Sheratons of all types tend to be less characterful and more dated places. Depending on price Alofts can get my money and sometimes Westins. Actually, the Westin brand means even less to me than Sheraton except probably a bit newer hotel. But in my experience it really depends on the individual hotel rather than the brand. in Guangzhou the Sheraton is definitely a better hotel for Platinums than the Marriott which is not to put the Marriott down. Both have good lounges and service but the Marriott suite was bizarrely laid out and dated while last weekend we got a great suite at the Sheraton and their pool is large and outdoors.
If the Sheraton brand gets an update like these pics then I could find myself seeking them out more.
I’ve not stayed at so many Marriott hotels yet but in Asia I’ve been working on the assumption that JW = Sheraton Grand, Marriott = Sheraton, Courtyard = Four Points and Renaissance = Westin (and RC = StR if we have to keep going on).
Just talking about my perception of the brands.
I usually target Le Meridiens first if there is one because Sheratons of all types tend to be less characterful and more dated places. Depending on price Alofts can get my money and sometimes Westins. Actually, the Westin brand means even less to me than Sheraton except probably a bit newer hotel. But in my experience it really depends on the individual hotel rather than the brand. in Guangzhou the Sheraton is definitely a better hotel for Platinums than the Marriott which is not to put the Marriott down. Both have good lounges and service but the Marriott suite was bizarrely laid out and dated while last weekend we got a great suite at the Sheraton and their pool is large and outdoors.
If the Sheraton brand gets an update like these pics then I could find myself seeking them out more.
I share the experience of many others that the average full-service Marriott is superior to the average full-service Sheraton in the U.S. I can't think of many cities off of the top of my head where that's not true.
The desk removal, if that holds, seems bizarre. Aren't the Marriott and Sheraton brands designed at their core for older road warrior business travelers? This is what I am and I find a desk mandatory, even on a leisure stay. I thought Millennials were supposed to stay at lower-price, self-service "hipper" brands like Moxy or Element?
Jun 25, 2018, 10:56 am
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Several of the renovated Marriotts do not have desks. Its almost as if they think only millennials travel ...they should hang out in the Admirals Club, check out the group 1-4 boarding line, look at the crowd in the CL. I like working at the bar sometimes but other times need a desk to spread out things.
Jun 25, 2018, 11:18 am
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I don't really see what "millenials" have to do with any of this and I find such comments to smack of out-of-touch "old man yells at cloud" thinking.
e.g. "millenials are supposed to stay at moxy" is a bafflingly weird statement.
e.g. "millenials are supposed to stay at moxy" is a bafflingly weird statement.