May 9, 2018, 11:36 am
Last edit by: rny321
PATHWAYS TO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE STATUS:
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
1. Legacy Marriott Lifetime Platinum - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 2MM Marriott Rewards points earned - not available after 1/1/2019
2. New Combined Program - 750 [MR+SPG] nights & 10 years combined/total as Platinum members previously under MR and/or SPG as of 12/31/2018 - not available after 1/1/2019
From members.marriott.com:
NOTE: Members that reach 750 nights and 10 years at Platinum by December 31, 2018 will be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status (notified January 2019).
FAQ from members.marriott.com
Q: CAN I EARN LIFETIME STATUS UNDER THE LEGACY REQUIREMENTS (ACTIVE PRIOR TO AUGUST 2018) FOR LIFETIME ELITE STATUS IN MARRIOTT REWARDS, RITZ-CARLTON REWARDS OR SPG? IF SO, WHEN WILL I BE NOTIFIED OF MY LIFETIME ELITE STATUS?
A: Yes, in addition to earning based on the new criteria, members can earn Lifetime Elite Status under the legacy requirements through the end of 2018. If Lifetime status is achieved by legacy requirements, between August and December 31, 2018 you will receive notice of your updated Lifetime Elite status in January 2019. If Lifetime status is achieved based on the new criteria, you will be notified both in August 2018 as well as any time it is achieved through the end of the year.
Example: An SPG member has 300 Lifetime nights, 4 years of Gold Elite Status, and 1 year of Platinum Elite Status after August, 2018. Under the SPG legacy Lifetime requirements, this member would earn Lifetime Gold Elite status which would reflect in their account January 2019.
Q: IF I WILL NOT BE GRANDFATHERED INTO LIFETIME PLATINUM PREMIER ELITE, WILL I HAVE THE ABILITY TO EARN INTO THIS LEVEL IN 2018?
A: Yes, members can earn Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite in 2018 if they achieve 750 Lifetime nights and 10 years at Platinum Elite status. This requirement is only for 2018 and will not be continued in future years. Members will receive notice of this Lifetime achievement in January 2019.
SPG Lifetime Platinums Can Now Qualify For Lifetime Titanium Status
May 10, 2018, 12:48 am
#121
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 905
Your 24
As we know it shifts from 75 nights to 100 plus 20K ( and the 100 requirement kicks in August 1st.) What happens in the event that one qualifies before August 1st, under the old rules? Your 24 is valid for the remainder of this year and all of 2019? Or if by 31st December , only counting SPG nights, it's valid for 2019. I'm a bit confused about this.
As for the changes with LTPP, personally I'm glad ( and much more likely to stick with the program) but I believe there's more than a few SPG Golds who would rightfully consider they got a raw deal relative to their Marriott counterparts.
As we know it shifts from 75 nights to 100 plus 20K ( and the 100 requirement kicks in August 1st.) What happens in the event that one qualifies before August 1st, under the old rules? Your 24 is valid for the remainder of this year and all of 2019? Or if by 31st December , only counting SPG nights, it's valid for 2019. I'm a bit confused about this.
As for the changes with LTPP, personally I'm glad ( and much more likely to stick with the program) but I believe there's more than a few SPG Golds who would rightfully consider they got a raw deal relative to their Marriott counterparts.
May 10, 2018, 1:04 am
#122
formerly fdemoulin
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: UK
Programs: SPG Lifetime Platinum, BA Silver, Virgin Flying Club Red
Posts: 916
Seriously I appreciate flyertalers are rabid but to spend 100 nights in a hotel within less than a year is insane unless you genuinely need to. I don’t see much difference to the tiers except for the status. Just not worth it. To be honest if they let everybody who has a claim, combined nights, 10 years, rollover nights, credit card nights it will mean nothing. I will be short of around 50 nights but have no intention of spending six months on a mattress run so I can brag to hat I have the highest level of elite membership. Will be interesting to see if my 90% suite nights still materialise. So far I am happy that I will keep my lifetime platinum membership with little change to the program. Would have liked LTPP but realise it will never happen. Life goes on
May 10, 2018, 1:18 am
#123
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: perth
Programs: SPG(LTG), QANTAS gold, Korean, Accor Plat
Posts: 1,500
You know you can get plat in SPG and Marriott this year? As a Marriott gold you can do a 9 stay challenge to qualify as plat. There is also the 10 nights for booking a meeting room path at Marriott. Maybe you have some options open to you with some planning.
May 10, 2018, 2:52 am
#124
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
I apologize if I have missed this in another post or in another thread: I am a MR LTG (which will convert to LTP in August) and to get to LTPP by year end would be a significant effort. By my read, the difference in LTP and LTPP are (i) additional bonus miles, (ii) additional 5 Nights Suite Upgrades, and (iii) 48 hour room availability guarantee. The value of these benefits is an individual preference. Have I missed anything?
(ii) no, you have to stay 50 nights to get 5 SNAs
(iii) correct
May 10, 2018, 3:14 am
#125
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: BDU
Programs: DL:MM, Marriott:LTT
Posts: 8,779
This is incorrect. The level above Platinum is Platinum Premier. Having had that status for several years, I know it does show as a different code. The issue is most front desk staff does not know the difference.
May 10, 2018, 4:48 am
#126
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BOS
Programs: UA 1K (2MM); AA LT Gold (1.9 MM); SQ; WN; DL; "Bonvoy Ambassador""
Posts: 398
May 10, 2018, 5:30 am
#127
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Titanium Elite for Life, Hilton Diamond, United Silver
Posts: 334
Bit Confused
OK, so on the SPG dashboard it states years Elite, does this mean years platinum?
I have 14 years "eltie", 901 lifetime nights with SPG and last year I got status matched with Marriott due to the merger and have 96 lifetime nights.
Does this mean I will be Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite?
Also it seems the difference between LPPE and LPE is minimal?!?
So confusing!
I have 14 years "eltie", 901 lifetime nights with SPG and last year I got status matched with Marriott due to the merger and have 96 lifetime nights.
Does this mean I will be Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite?
Also it seems the difference between LPPE and LPE is minimal?!?
So confusing!
May 10, 2018, 5:48 am
#128
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
If I am not too dense to understand the rules now I am actually pretty HAPPY with Marriott after this change. Here's my situation:
- SPG Platinum 9 years
- 2018 will be year 10 of SPG Platinum for me
- End of 2018 I will have 630 Lifetime SPG nights
- End of 2018 I will have 188 MR Lifetime nights
= If I qualify for Platinum this year (which I will) then I will have 10 years of Platinum and 818 combined nights
= Lifetime Platinum Premier ^
I hope I am understanding this correct!!! Only question that I still have open is....do I have to qualify for Platinum this year on JUST SPG nights or can I reach the 50 nights in the combined program to get my 10th year of Platinum full?
- SPG Platinum 9 years
- 2018 will be year 10 of SPG Platinum for me
- End of 2018 I will have 630 Lifetime SPG nights
- End of 2018 I will have 188 MR Lifetime nights
= If I qualify for Platinum this year (which I will) then I will have 10 years of Platinum and 818 combined nights
= Lifetime Platinum Premier ^
I hope I am understanding this correct!!! Only question that I still have open is....do I have to qualify for Platinum this year on JUST SPG nights or can I reach the 50 nights in the combined program to get my 10th year of Platinum full?
May 10, 2018, 6:28 am
#129
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: MSY; 2-time FT Fantasy Football Champ, now in recovery.
Programs: AA lifetime GLD; UA Silver; Marriott LTTE; IHG Plat,
Posts: 14,518
I apologize if I have missed this in another post or in another thread: I am a MR LTG (which will convert to LTP in August) and to get to LTPP by year end would be a significant effort. By my read, the difference in LTP and LTPP are...
The value of these benefits is an individual preference. Have I missed anything?
The value of these benefits is an individual preference. Have I missed anything?
With the current benefits, it's just not worth it. But I wonder about future changes, not so much enhancements to PP but devaluations to P.
I hate that it's a one-time chance to get LTPP, and if not now, never. Back when AA stopped counting all miles towards LT status, I had a chance to push for LT PLT before the change, but I looked at GLD benefits at the time and they seemed good enough. Since then, GLD has eroded, and I often wish I'd locked in the higher LT status when I had the chance...
May 10, 2018, 6:51 am
#130
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,409
All this talk of rushing to make LTPP is making me wonder whether Marriott executives need/want to bump up Starriott occupancy rates for rest of this calendar year to make it appear to investors that the merger is successful and/or to keep hotel owners/managers/investors happy. Yes, I realize that FT is a small part of the universe, but every little bit of revenue added over six thousand hotels for more than seven months helps. [Think of airline cost cutting by removing a shrimp from salads or eliminating free newspapers to save weight as well as the various small fees.]
OTOH, unhappy SPG Golds and people who had comped Gold status (AmEx Plat/Centurion cardholders, UA Gold+, etc.) are threatening to cancel Starriott bookings, so the groups might balance each other to result in zero net impact.
OTOH, unhappy SPG Golds and people who had comped Gold status (AmEx Plat/Centurion cardholders, UA Gold+, etc.) are threatening to cancel Starriott bookings, so the groups might balance each other to result in zero net impact.
May 10, 2018, 6:51 am
#131
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: USA
Programs: SPG Platinum (100)
Posts: 517
If you are already SPG LTP, you will already have earned at least 10 years Platinum (and 500 nights) so for the purposes of LTPP, you will have achieved (at least) one of the two criteria (10 years Platinum) (the other criteria being 750+ nights before Dec 31, 2018).
May 10, 2018, 7:16 am
#132
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: SPI
Programs: AA Gold, UA LT Plat, Mar LTT
Posts: 18,147
Dave
May 10, 2018, 7:56 am
#133
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,748
If I am not too dense to understand the rules now I am actually pretty HAPPY with Marriott after this change. Here's my situation:
- SPG Platinum 9 years
- 2018 will be year 10 of SPG Platinum for me
- End of 2018 I will have 630 Lifetime SPG nights
- End of 2018 I will have 188 MR Lifetime nights
= If I qualify for Platinum this year (which I will) then I will have 10 years of Platinum and 818 combined nights
= Lifetime Platinum Premier ^
I hope I am understanding this correct!!! Only question that I still have open is....do I have to qualify for Platinum this year on JUST SPG nights or can I reach the 50 nights in the combined program to get my 10th year of Platinum full?
- SPG Platinum 9 years
- 2018 will be year 10 of SPG Platinum for me
- End of 2018 I will have 630 Lifetime SPG nights
- End of 2018 I will have 188 MR Lifetime nights
= If I qualify for Platinum this year (which I will) then I will have 10 years of Platinum and 818 combined nights
= Lifetime Platinum Premier ^
I hope I am understanding this correct!!! Only question that I still have open is....do I have to qualify for Platinum this year on JUST SPG nights or can I reach the 50 nights in the combined program to get my 10th year of Platinum full?
Why don't you just finish up your 10 years of SPG before August, get LTP in SPG and be definitely grandfathered in to LTPP in the new programme? Then you don't have to worry any more. ... I'm sure you can generate 25 stays before August to get Platinum...
The specific answer to your question is in the Wiki... you can earn it under legacy or existing SPG requirements all the way till end of 2018 ie just like before. Which means 50 nights in SPG, no combined nights.
Or you can earn it based on the new criteria, in August (when they merge and see if you already meet the requirements) or any time through the end of 2018... which means as long as you do 50 combined nights you're good to go.
At least you have a shot at this... I'm nearing 800 and only have 8 years. Even if I did all Marriott stays from now to get stay-based MR Plat by August I'd still only have 9 years... so close yet so far...
May 10, 2018, 8:07 am
#134
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
Your 24
As we know it shifts from 75 nights to 100 plus 20K ( and the 100 requirement kicks in August 1st.) What happens in the event that one qualifies before August 1st, under the old rules? Your 24 is valid for the remainder of this year and all of 2019? Or if by 31st December , only counting SPG nights, it's valid for 2019. I'm a bit confused about this.
As for the changes with LTPP, personally I'm glad ( and much more likely to stick with the program) but I believe there's more than a few SPG Golds who would rightfully consider they got a raw deal relative to their Marriott counterparts.
As we know it shifts from 75 nights to 100 plus 20K ( and the 100 requirement kicks in August 1st.) What happens in the event that one qualifies before August 1st, under the old rules? Your 24 is valid for the remainder of this year and all of 2019? Or if by 31st December , only counting SPG nights, it's valid for 2019. I'm a bit confused about this.
As for the changes with LTPP, personally I'm glad ( and much more likely to stick with the program) but I believe there's more than a few SPG Golds who would rightfully consider they got a raw deal relative to their Marriott counterparts.
A11. Will those who meet either the 75 or 100 night criteria in 2018 still be eligible for the Your24 & Ambassador benefit, respectively, for the remainder of 2018 and for the 2019 year even if they don't achieve the new $20K spend requirement? If so, what is the deadline for meeting these criteria - August 1 or December 31?
Any members that stay 100 nights at legacy SPG brands or 100 nights plus have $20,000 USD in eligible spend, across all 29 brands by year-end 2018, will retain their Ambassador for all of 2019. Your24 will remain a benefit of SPG Platinum 75-night members through July, after which the Your24 benefit will only be available to Platinum Premier with Ambassador members. We will continue to honor the existing SPG stay-based thresholds for all levels through year-end 2018 for stays made at legacy-SPG brands/hotels. <added by Starwood Lurker 26Apr18>
May 10, 2018, 8:13 am
#135
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
I thought I understood that combined SPG & MAR nights would count toward the 750 required for LTPP until The Points Guy confused me with his assertion that the nights had to be in a single program.
And now I am further confused by “If
And now I am further confused by “If
you’ve spent 750+ nights at Starwood hotels, well above the SPG Lifetime Platinum requirements, you will now also be grandfathered into Lifetime Platinum Premier Elite status. If you’re short of that threshold, you’ll have the rest of the year to get there, and nights across the entire 29-brand portfolio of properties will count toward it.”
Isn’t that a contradiction?
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Isn’t that a contradiction?
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