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Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Competing Rate:
Competing Web Site:

Comments:

FAQ

What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG)?

If a lower rate at an SPG Hotel is made available on a non-SPG website or non-SPG mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, SPG will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 25% discount off the Competing Rate (20% for Design Hotels) per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

What should I do if my claim is successful?
  • Re-confirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
  • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If they have not posted, then contacted the BRG team to get it posted.
Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?

Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.

How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • Log into your SPG account.
  • Click on your stays to view your current reservation.
  • Click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE.
  • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How do I add a Suite Night Award (SNA) to a my BRG reservation?
  • Follow the steps as outlined under: How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • At the end of this process, you should be able to select "Apply SNA to this Stay" from within your stays page.
GUIDELINES FOR A SUCCESSFUL CLAIM

• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.

• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public
• Cancellation/Deposit Policies and amenities must match on both websites to be valid

A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG

• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using the next lowest category of room and must include the cancel/deposit polices and amenities you are wanting- if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will remain what is booked.


• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• You must book and submit a claim for the room type, cancel policy, deposit policy and amenities you are comparing. If you a flexible rate on SPG.com, they will look for a flexible rate when processing your claim, even if a lower rate for non-cancellable is available.
• You cannot BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. All information must be the same on both websites and the claim will be denied.

• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is no room available with the same amenities, it will be denied.

• Room types must be the same for a BRG.

• If you are booking and comparing rates for a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved

• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.

• The cancel policy of an approved claim will be the same as what was booked and approved. It will no longer default to flexible.

• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website for that room type to help clarify.

• If you find availability on a third party website/app but there is no availability on the Starwood Website, then this claim cannot be submitted as you must have a valid reservation to submit a claim. If it is submitted somehow without a reservation, the claim will not be processed as a valid Starwood reservation is required.

• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • BestDay
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • Hotelreservierung.de (according to BRG team 5 Sept 2017)
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim but it must be the lowest rate for the hotel and dates. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities are not included in the comparasin
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.

Differing currencies

Marriott may deny claims where the difference between the comparison rate and the Marriott rate is less than $1. Rate disparities primarily attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 2:36 am
  #1021  
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
Yep never book prepaid rates unless you like the rate you are paying for and see brg is an additional bonus.
That's why I stay away from Design Hotels. Besides rates on Design Hotels are usually cheaper lol on designhotels.com
I'm gonna guess that nongsom is trying to claim Ovolo Southside, which has rates around HKD1000ai and can routinely be found for EUR55-70ai on dozens of competing sites. Even in he heyday of the old (honest) BRG, claiming this hotel has been a risky proposition; I've never seen the Ovolo post a refundable rate as its lowest option, even when rates go to HKD1500 and up (as they occasionally do). I did have a couple of approved BRGs here, and it's certainly a nice price for HK if it goes through (around HKD450ai), BUT imo it's just not worth the risk. You're not getting any real benefits here (I don't need the stay credits, and the points earning is laughable), so why take a HKD500 (or more) gamble that your claim will be approved?! Just forget about the 20% savings and book directly with Amoma, Trip.com, Hotelreservierung, or any of the other sites SPG deems inadequate.

As for the "you didn't book the lowest rate" rejection when you actually DID book the lowest available rate: I just had the same thing in Bangkok. In the past, I've occasionally experienced this with e.g., 3-night stays, when the agent would check, say, the Z3R rate (pay-2, get 1-free), which might actually be lower than what I had booked, but isn't shown automatically (without punching in the code). My current issue is with a single night, so I have no idea what lower rate they're seeing.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 4:35 am
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Yes it's ovolo south side
I already checked and they don't have any promo like Z3R rate.
I know the risk of prepaid rate.
BUT they rejected with unacceptable reason.
Because I really DID lowest rate when I booking.
Then rate of hotel drop after my booking.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 4:43 am
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Originally Posted by nongsom
Yes it's ovolo south side
I already checked and they don't have any promo like Z3R rate.
I know the risk of prepaid rate.
BUT they rejected with unacceptable reason.
Because I really DID lowest rate when I booking.
Then rate of hotel drop after my booking.
Sometimes rates drop for no reason. No need to blame the Brg team and call it unacceptable.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 5:19 am
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Originally Posted by joakgarp
Sometimes rates drop for no reason. No need to blame the Brg team and call it unacceptable.
This isn't about a rejection because the rate dropped between booking and processing. In the case I'm describing, the BRG team is claiming that the member failed to book the lowest available rate. However, the member DID book the lowest available rate. The rate SPG is referring to didn't show up at booking, and it doesn't show up now.
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 5:40 am
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Originally Posted by jpdx
This isn't about a rejection because the rate dropped between booking and processing. In the case I'm describing, the BRG team is claiming that the member failed to book the lowest available rate. However, the member DID book the lowest available rate. The rate SPG is referring to didn't show up at booking, and it doesn't show up now.
Sounds like this, quoted from the faq:

"The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities. "

If that's not the case call in using the number in the FAQ and talk to them what kind of rate they're seeing and you aren't.

Edit: Did some searching for that hotel. Same rate no matter 1-2 occupants. I'd call in if I were you, if spg.com doesn't show that particular rate.

Last edited by joakgarp; Aug 10, 2018 at 5:50 am
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by M.dA.R.

BRG in SPG has become a scam
just when i was beginning to lose all hope, over the last 10 days my last 9 claims have been successful....for the last one i received a response in under 8 hours....
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 9:05 am
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My lastest claim got approved within 6 hours.

Hotel Name: The Adelaide Hotel, Toronto
Arrival Date: October xx, 2018
Departure Date: October yy, 2018 (4 nights)
Number of Adults: 1
Number of Rooms: 1
Room Type: Deluxe room
Starwood Rate: CAD 545.23 per night plus taxes
Competing Website: hotels.com
Competing rate: USD 393.68 per night plus taxes
Actual confirmed rate: 384.29 CAD (512.38 CAD less 25%) per night plus taxes
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 9:54 am
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Hotel Name: The Westin Singapore
January 2019, 3 nights
Room Type: deluxe room (1 room, 2 guests)
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: SGD310
Competing Rate: SGD304, less 25% for BRG
Competing Web Site: via hotelscombined
Comments: flexible vs. flexible; approved in 13 hours
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by Keyser
just when i was beginning to lose all hope, over the last 10 days my last 9 claims have been successful....for the last one i received a response in under 8 hours....
Wow, this is encouraging. Would you mind sharing which hotels?
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 12:48 pm
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Hotel Name: Grand Bretagne
Arrival Date: August XX
Departure Date: August XX
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 2
Room Type: Classic King
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: EUR 340
Competing Rate: EUR 330
Competing Web Site: tablethotels.com
Comments: A while ago I booked a room at the Grand Bretagne in Athens for EUR 385. I tried multiple times to file a BRG (via expedia, hotels.com, booking.com) and they were all denied for one reason or another. At one point spg.com reduced its rate to EUR 370, and later again to EUR 340, so I had to cancel and re-book my room (my BRG claims were being denied because even though the third party site had a lower rate, spg.com had lowered its rate too -- so when I was booked at 385, expedia.com showing 370 would be denied even though it was lower than my rate).

Eventually I found a rate of EUR 330 on tablethotels.com. I wanted to post this because I don't think I had seen any successful claims with Tablet Hotels. I was assuming my claim would be denied because Tablet requires sign in with email address to book the room, even though it is NOT a "members only rate". To my surprise the claim was approved, at a rate of EUR 247.50 (EUR 330 minus 25%).
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by escape4
Wow, this is encouraging. Would you mind sharing which hotels?
i've been meaning to post the details....just haven't had time these last few days....will do so over the weekend....
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Old Aug 10, 2018, 5:39 pm
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A 12 hour turnaround approval from the India team today on my first BRG attempt in many months. Color me impressed.
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 2:25 am
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Hotel Name: the westin sohna resort & spa....
Stay Dates: 1 night in august....
Number of Rooms: 1....
Number of Guests: 2....
Room Type: luxury villa....
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: inr 23,750....
Competing Room Provider: www.hotelscombined.com
Competing Rate: inr 22,750....
Actual Approved Rate: inr 22,750....
BRG Reward: 2k points....
Comments: approved by the indian team in under 24 hours....
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 2:27 am
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Hotel Name: the westin sohna resort & spa....
Stay Dates: 1 night in august....
Number of Rooms: 2....
Number of Guests: 2....
Room Type: premier villa....
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: inr 15,550....
Competing Room Provider: www.hotelscombined.com
Competing Rate: inr 14,155....
Actual Approved Rate: inr 14,155....
BRG Reward: 2k points....
Comments: booked 2 premier villas & 1 luxury villa under 2 separate reservations....both approved by the indian team in under 24 hours....
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Old Aug 11, 2018, 2:48 am
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Hotel Name: itc grand central, a luxury collection hotel, mumbai....
Stay Dates: 1 night in august....
Number of Rooms: 1....
Number of Guests: 1....
Room Type: executive club....
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: inr 7,114.80....
Competing Room Provider: www.hotelscombined.com
Competing Rate: inr 5,336.10....
Actual Approved Rate: inr 5,336.10....
BRG Reward: 2k points....
Comments: approved in under 8 hours....
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