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Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Competing Rate:
Competing Web Site:

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FAQ

What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG)?

If a lower rate at an SPG Hotel is made available on a non-SPG website or non-SPG mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, SPG will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 25% discount off the Competing Rate (20% for Design Hotels) per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

What should I do if my claim is successful?
  • Re-confirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
  • If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If they have not posted, then contacted the BRG team to get it posted.
Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?

Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.

How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • Log into your SPG account.
  • Click on your stays to view your current reservation.
  • Click on "Set Stay Preferences" link for the BRG reservation, then SAVE.
  • Refresh your stays page and the reservation should be visible again. You may need to repeat this step if the hotel touches your reservation. If you apply for Your24, you will not be able to view the reservation details.
How do I add a Suite Night Award (SNA) to a my BRG reservation?
  • Follow the steps as outlined under: How do I view my reservation after my BRG has been approved?
  • At the end of this process, you should be able to select "Apply SNA to this Stay" from within your stays page.
GUIDELINES FOR A SUCCESSFUL CLAIM

• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.

• The rate you submit the BRG against must be a rate that is available to the general public
• Cancellation/Deposit Policies and amenities must match on both websites to be valid

A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG

• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using the next lowest category of room and must include the cancel/deposit polices and amenities you are wanting- if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will remain what is booked.


• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)

• You must book and submit a claim for the room type, cancel policy, deposit policy and amenities you are comparing. If you a flexible rate on SPG.com, they will look for a flexible rate when processing your claim, even if a lower rate for non-cancellable is available.
• You cannot BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. All information must be the same on both websites and the claim will be denied.

• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is no room available with the same amenities, it will be denied.

• Room types must be the same for a BRG.

• If you are booking and comparing rates for a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved

• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.

• The cancel policy of an approved claim will be the same as what was booked and approved. It will no longer default to flexible.

• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website for that room type to help clarify.

• If you find availability on a third party website/app but there is no availability on the Starwood Website, then this claim cannot be submitted as you must have a valid reservation to submit a claim. If it is submitted somehow without a reservation, the claim will not be processed as a valid Starwood reservation is required.

• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • BestDay
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip (Known as MyTrip from Dec 2017)
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • Hotelreservierung.de (according to BRG team 5 Sept 2017)
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)
  • Hotelius (according to BRG team 21 Sept 2017)
  • Zenhotels (according to BRG team 10 Nov 2017)
  • Travelbag (according to BRG team 22 Dec 2017)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim but it must be the lowest rate for the hotel and dates. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities are not included in the comparasin
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • If you need to BRG Design Hotels for Double or higher occupancy.
    • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. You must book the actual number of occupants intended. Effectively, you can only BRG for single occupant unless double rate happens to be the same as single. It is not possible to BRG if double rate is higher than single. No modification to occupancy is allowed if BRG is approved. If you submit with single rate, you will be stuck with single room; if you submit with double rate and single rate is lower, it will be automatically denied irrespective of competing rates.

Differing currencies

Marriott may deny claims where the difference between the comparison rate and the Marriott rate is less than $1. Rate disparities primarily attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 1:06 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
I've been watching the BRG disaster unfold and submitted my first requests since May 25, a few days ago. Both were flexible reservations, but both were denied because the OTA required an upfront deposit. Last night I replied to one of the denials and asked that it be escalated to a supervisor. I explained that this was not how Marriott processed their LNF requests. I thought Marriott had done a pretty good job of merging the programs and had been treating us fairly but had really dropped the ball on the BRGs.

Today I got 2 calls from one of the long time BRG agents from St Thomas who I've had the pleasure of speaking with many times in the past. She apologized and explained that this is how they had been instructed to process the BRGs, but would forward my comments to upper mgmt. (They truly are wonderful and competent people which is why I get bent out of shape when posters start slamming them.) She called me back a few hours later and said they had just received an email confirming that they would now be comparing flexible vs flexible rates and would no longer deny BRGs because the OTA requires a deposit and Starwood does not! ^

My BRG was approved.
This is a good news.

But this still means we can technically only be able to submit BRG for flexible rate. I did manage to resubmit my BRG against a flexible rate and got approved last night.

I did raise a question on my previously rejected BRG and asking them how do I then do BRG for prepaid rate? What I did book a flexible rate and submit a claim indicate a new (prepaid) rate, this was rejected as they said the OTA rate is prepaid. I replied on that rejection email asking how I can claim for prepaid rate. Will I be able to cancel it if the BRG is rejected? or BRG now is technically only for flexi rate and I only got this reply
Our claim form still allows claims to be submitted against a different rate than originally booked in case you have not booked the lowest rate currently available for your preferred type of rate. Reservations that have been booked with a flexible or non-refundable cancellation policy can be submitted, but we will compare rates for the same room type, amenities, cancellation policy and deposit policy originally booked.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by lingua101
This is a good news.

But this still means we can technically only be able to submit BRG for flexible rate. I did manage to resubmit my BRG against a flexible rate and got approved last night.

I did raise a question on my previously rejected BRG and asking them how do I then do BRG for prepaid rate? What I did book a flexible rate and submit a claim indicate a new (prepaid) rate, this was rejected as they said the OTA rate is prepaid. I replied on that rejection email asking how I can claim for prepaid rate. Will I be able to cancel it if the BRG is rejected? or BRG now is technically only for flexi rate and I only got this reply
Correct. For prepaid BRGs, you will need to make a prepaid reservation. No change there.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 6:54 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
She called me back a few hours later and said they had just received an email confirming that they would now be comparing flexible vs flexible rates and would no longer deny BRGs because the OTA requires a deposit and Starwood does not! ^
I'll believe it when the news filters through to the entire BRG team (who I also think do a marvelous job but have been put in a horrible position). I'm still getting rejections that are straight out of the IHG / Hyatt handbook.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 7:26 am
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Thank god for this.. was about to ignore Spg forever.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
Excellent News! Lets hope this information will be disseminated to the relevant parties.
To be fair the people to be slammed should not be the individual associate, even though they probably get to face a lot of our (mine) frustration, it is the upper management responsible for merging different aspects of Starwood and MAR.
I will believe it when they drop references to deposits in the T&Cs. I will only be booking SPG if/when they implement a free 24 hr cancellation on non-refundable rates. Otherwise, it’ll be Marriott properties only from August until the end of 2019 to take advantage of my renewed Platinum status then I’ll be out the door.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 8:53 am
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Wow! They really have updated to match flex vs flex!! Approved claim with SPG flexible no deposit rate vs OTA prepaid but free cancellation. Also, in my claim, the room 'name' didn't match - Wonderful room vs Double standard, but I did make a note that it was the lowest category room booked.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 9:26 am
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Has anyone been successful with a BRG claim aganist TravelUp as an OTA?

There is a slight difference in the rates for a prepaid versus a prepaid that I think would be successful however no free cancellation so I am hesitant in booking SPG when I can also stay at the Marriott at a lower rate in Fiji.
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Old Jun 12, 2018, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by Yannie
Wow! They really have updated to match flex vs flex!! Approved claim with SPG flexible no deposit rate vs OTA prepaid but free cancellation. Also, in my claim, the room 'name' didn't match - Wonderful room vs Double standard, but I did make a note that it was the lowest category room booked.
I can confirm this as well great job SPG LNF team aligned with MR LNF. LNF is the last man standing when it comes to BRG is there any other chain where you can BRG for a flex rate?

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Old Jun 12, 2018, 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by X-ON
I can confirm this as well great job SPG LNF team aligned with MR LNF. LNF is the last man standing when it comes to BRG is there any other chain where you can BRG for a flex rate?
oh yeah, another question.

For Marriott LNF, you can make amendment on the booking as long as it is within the period, i.e. if the original reservation is for 3 nights, I can cut it short to 2 nights. Will this also true now for SPG BRG? The old rule, you cannot make any amendment on the booking.
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 1:18 am
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Originally Posted by X-ON
LNF is the last man standing when it comes to BRG is there any other chain where you can BRG for a flex rate?
Yes Shangri-La or instance and many GHA brands.
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 1:42 am
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Hi. My SPG BRG failure experience. I have booked St.Regis Princeville Resort at 700 ex.fees, no cancellation allowed. There's no flexible rate exists even FHR has no cancellation allowed. Then I found tripadvisor has 625 ex.fees with same room type and size. I claimed BRG and got very fast denied. The reason is tripadvisor's rate has more favorable cancellation policy of free cancellation till 2-day before arrival. That sounds very weird to me. -_-
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by lingua101
oh yeah, another question.

For Marriott LNF, you can make amendment on the booking as long as it is within the period, i.e. if the original reservation is for 3 nights, I can cut it short to 2 nights. Will this also true now for SPG BRG? The old rule, you cannot make any amendment on the booking.

I already amended one flexible booking with SPG before the changes, but the rules are not crystal clear as another booking was denied modification
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Old Jun 15, 2018, 3:55 pm
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Have had 2 recent approvals for flex vs. flex claims with slightly different room descriptions. Both approved by India it would appear (oddly enough, but that would explain the weird prices they've come up with).

Not nearly as good as before, but at least SPG's BRG seems functional again.
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Old Jun 17, 2018, 10:53 am
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I just send out a flexible vs flexible on a rate through Skyscanner.de just to see if they can see the rate. Sometimes US people don't see the same rates through the Skyscanner link. If that one is approved I might try my luck with a cheaper non-flexible rate.

For our trip to Astana we can do 3 nights St Regis and then 3 nights Ritz-Carlton or the other way around. I found a possible BRG rate for the first option, but rather do it they other way around....unless it saves me E125 with the BRG.

Boy, the really took the found out of BRG's.
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Old Jun 18, 2018, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by hxz59
Hi. My SPG BRG failure experience. I have booked St.Regis Princeville Resort at 700 ex.fees, no cancellation allowed. There's no flexible rate exists even FHR has no cancellation allowed. Then I found tripadvisor has 625 ex.fees with same room type and size. I claimed BRG and got very fast denied. The reason is tripadvisor's rate has more favorable cancellation policy of free cancellation till 2-day before arrival. That sounds very weird to me. -_-
So, SPG is now saying that the competing site can't have MORE favorable cancellation terms? That's nuts.
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