Sam P. Goodman

I'm wondering what's more insane...the OP's posts or the throngs of FTers trying to have a rational discussion with him/her.

Gotta run...SPG will be activating the chip they implanted in my head any second now....

mjmqm

Someone needs to lock the thread or lock someone up.....

PilgrimsProgress

op - re revocation of your spg account, maybe you should get a marriott account and with the merger you will be able to use your marriott account at spg properties if you like

ftrichard

This thread reminds me of that one from about two months ago where the guy was complaining with a long-winded story that unravelled over pages and pages of posts and it turned out he was trying to game the SNA system by using back-to-back reservations - one with a SNA and the other without.

Remember that one? The OP wouldn't listen to any of the sense from regular FTers and kept returning to wind people up with more droplets of information that gave fresh perspectives on his original story.

Eventually, the OP deleted all his posts and has never been seen again.

This thread is like that.

s0ssos

I am guessing China. Based on the "balabala". Though OP may be Chinese does not follow OP has been to a property in China

Dr. HFH

I'm with drron. My guess is that OP figured out some way to game the system to get PLT without actually staying in SPG properties, and now is upset about that way that it's [not] working out.


This. Exactly.

pageboy

alphaod

Well interestingly a friend asked why I keep bothering to fly to get status or do stays. He says there are services in China that you can contact and they can grant you status. Essentially it's through some corporate contracts with some airlines and hotels, I wouldn't be surprised Platinum status can be bought for a couple thousand yuan... until someone in the system catches on and cancels the account... then you get these people who think status is supposed to be paid and they think SPG has cheated them...

pinniped

I don't get the balabala thing at all. What does that mean in Chinese? Or what does it mean in any language?

margarita girl

Probably equivalent to yada, yada, if you ever watched Seinfeld.

Often1

It is an island in French Polynesia for someone with a lisp.

C17PSGR

That makes sense, since our friend caa says he has only stayed 20 days. I didn't get the plat piece.

But ... if you don't stay at hotels much, what good does plat status do?

That being said, I'm all for cracking down on fake status since I don't like them competing with myself, who gets the status with 125-150 nights a year.

tfong007

Tonnes of scams in China. They sell status to hotels and airlines. Fax a fake stay or travel history and get a match. Its a bold scam but they know Starwood is not going to call Hyatt to confirm this persons stays.

caa

Hi, You are trying to think you are smarter, sir. You see, what i told is based on fact, but what you are guessing is basing on imagination, is that my problem? Of course not.

all my past stay in SPG are bar rate,i don't know nothing about program even don't know the way of how to use my own company's price.

I have stated again and again and again clearly that, to get a benefit as PL membership enjoy, SPG rules is one way, if you know manager, you can always get it, this is espeicially true, after you stay in a non-h
---------WHY ARE YOUR GUYS STILL KEEPING BLIND?! ARE YOU PAID FOR SUPPORT SPG？

－－－－You see, SPG is likely to you, keeping blind to so many evidence I provided, you are here to spread rumor because no one can punish you, SPG integrity staff xx doing this is exactly like it too. they can't be talked only by email which they can pretend not to see it.

---------“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. ”
---------I really can't understand which part you say i should tell you more? Did you insist that to tell you it's the hotel in LA or in NY, you will give differnt answer?! How unbelieveable!
---------You guys here are attackting someone victim, and i now start to think that such a loyalty problem is not about "loyal" it's a "brainwash program"， how ridiculous you are always protecting a group without condition, Even Bill Cliton has guilty for his action, such as a Group is always right?! The victim shall not be in existance?! How ridiculous! Don't mention it's a group having thousands of staff, not only 1 staff.

--------Did you guys realize that is not the bussiness problem that i go to stay for other Group, but it's a personal set up, setting me using some price-----which the criminal guy used, it's not for me to go away, and i am pretty sure, if i am going away, the evil specific staff xx of Intergrity department will and must try to hurt more people to anyone who make compliant letter to him. the staff XX thinks he is God.

-----Anyway, it's very disappointed to me that Dr. your earlier post is nice, but now you are again and again overlooked my statement, trying to make a frame on me, blame me something else. Instead, i have to say based on your words you are the one really dangerous not me, because you know much more bad ways to violate the rules..
For me your guys can't have strong mind to believe what you have seen in the post,you didn't see me before, but alternatively the only way left is to make me bad so you can maintain your SPG's glory figure in your mind.In your potential mind, you are always see the decorated SPG hotel, graduatelly link glory with SPG, so can't lisen to anyone say no.I guess so.



Hi, thanks for your kindness..
what i am angry is that the people who do bad things and violated SPG rules and country rules, are not punished, but me,who is victim is being punished, i am 100% not suing that people... the SPG should be my target, the guy who is bad is using SPG as a weapon to making some eternal influence on me.

What do you think about Marriott. i hope after Marriott get SPG, i may can using Marriott account to stay in SPG so forget the SPG account case, but i guess you wouldn't know the policy that if Marriott account will be automatically influenced for my SPG case? The only safe way is to get things right in SPG part.

actually , i have sent my case to customer affairs staff who has understood and treat me much better than the moment the staff only read my profile from integrity department-----So from this point, i am very disappointed for what i speak on Flyertalk can't be understood... and very shock for your guys' comment.

You guys say, i can't convince you to believe. SPG are corrupted. that is because you are staying in your world your guys get in touch with luxury hotel's decoration, so can't associate with bad things with them, a kind of naive from my perspective..
I have stated in much details here, so many points 1)2 ) 3) tell you the fact, so it never be my problem to tell you they are bad, it is your problem to be practical on what happened.
I also not believe it for the first time, otherwise, why i have to post my problem that 3 years ago?! Until now, the criminal who violates and frames me still get help by SPG whatever for his account's status but also for the words he frame to me still working for SPG without much evidence he provided.
I get limited time for posting here per day, 5 perhaps. So i can't reply here one by one.
For your question:

You were set up by the police? Over SPG points? Unless there's more to the story (which I suspect), I think not.
----------Set up by SPG intergrity department, and a criminal which recongzed by local police. But SPG following the criminal's words, working with criminal after i make a compliant letter to a specfic SPG intergrtiy staff.


So you have been accused of transferring your PLT benefits to someone else, and your position/defense is that the other person never actually received the benefits? Not sure that that is the argument you want to go with.

-----I think i have stated the case clearly in the paragraph. The hotel is the brand never provide PL benifit to the guest(but alternaitvely the guest got benifit by other reason not for the program), i have audio recording which sent to SPG intergrity as evidence, but SPG intergrity department simply overlooked it (this has been confirmed by customer affairs department because affairs department says the evidence never appears in my case)

You told the police that it never happened? (That's a lie according to what you've written here.) Or that you do not wish to press charges? (Perhaps you can help us understand why.)
-----If you have rich experience dealing police( not only in your county), you will know police is not always stick to the rules. I needn't tell you a lie after 3 years... pointless especially for such a detail
Police asked me what to do next after detained the guy for a while , because i am not having face criminal before in my life, my understanding is it's not necessary to make somebody in a serious way, although the guy make a eavesdrop, .... beat.. and steal.....my money.. so i just get the money back and tole the police my personal philosophy. But the guy, after being release started to spread lie online and frame me in every details which is not quite relevant to the topic. But anyway, i have clear my reputation then online, people know the fact based on my hard evidence and give their common revealing the the guy's former crime to others, but for SPG they never learned as others online, still working with the guy who has no work, poor education and without much money.

The assault on you was certainly a violation of criminal laws.

There is obviously more to this story; but the OP has several problems, not the least of which is that English does not appear to be his first language.
-----I am not sure your questions here, but to such a simple case, SPG never cancel the criminal's account, but cancel mine, and in addition, working with the lier criminal by using some evidence from him (which SPG never show me what as it always) and in terms of English, i have to say... i am unexpected for the comment as my English is always get positive from top tier global company's supervisor's comment...and the funny part is that especially on my translation capability...probably when i was worried about a case, i maynot rephrase my situation well




-------：） I could tell you more for the sentence"
You were set up by the police? "
Actually, there is 1 set up for the police, such as the guy who beat me after police came, can't tell police the reason why he beat me...(of course, can the criminal saying making an eavesdrop for knowing what i report to the hotel for his previous crime)
After 15 mins, police was very impatient, the guy lie that there was a financial argument with me....without any evidence. the police was very impatient and want to leave the case ASAP, and police write down on the record for the reason as he stated and push me to sign my name, i asked policeman is that for your to leave ASAP, you know that wasn't true right? The police man say"so what do you believe if that wasn't true, just sign and we police can leave for this little matter"--------I am very smart and leave the audio recording as evidence already.

----------
"Remember without evidence, just because you say it, does not make it true. That's like you saying the sun is green. Say it as many times as you like, won't make it true.

If you want to be taken seriously do the following.

1. Give exact dates, and exact property names and exact contact names
2. Use google translate, it is very hard to understand you
"

Hi,please forgive me I really don't understand, what it help to you if i told you it is on Mon or Wednesday?! Or if it is in LA or NY? Alternatively, if i disclose too specific, SPG will do bad things on me, actually I was naive leaving too much information before, for example,following SPG online specialist's instruction of my SPG account number to her. But later this specialist is bad too, without investigation, using my account information do bad things that in a online BBS the criminal guy i stated earlier mentioned me doing something as part of his frame action, and the SPG online specialist without investigation link my account number to the framed case, and she never dear to pick up phone when i called customer center ask her to answer my call, instead her supervisor stopped me and picked up phone to question my purpose of calling her, and saying nothing. You see, SPG is very bad, such as the they dare not simply to talk with you if you have a telephone number.

Please don't be naive too, letting me leave more information which never help you(will you make your investigation? of course you can't)

Your guys always ask more but say nothing.


Instead, if SPG in flyertalk links me identity and my intention of sue them, i believe their bad character only let them to doing this: tell intergrity department to ban me in much border way(who knows what they can done more) because i dare to plan to sue them, rather than say "hey , i see the boy was poor child, why not we treat him better"

-----What my point is whatever United was sue or not, it is United know they are wrong and so settle out of court for David Dao's case, such a case, of course are always settle out of court when United know they are wrong otherwise, they would be too confidence to humiliate passenger on the court. Company are always make damage under control.
------For the case that the criminal working with hotel, i told you frankly that it's funny because
1) the hotel staff firstly don't know who steal my wallet by looking for a long time, then after i told the staff to ask the criminal, the hotel staff then ask and get it back by force for me.
2) However, the criminal know the hotel staff can protect him because he is the only typically stick in the front desk for 9 hours per day(you don't believe right?!) the criminal. So after police finally came for the stealing case, the same hotel staff above just jumped out and say it is the staff itself pick it up, trying to confuse police
3) So either hotel working with criminal, or the criminal stealing things and SPG doesn't follow rules to close its account for violate national laws. SPG are in any way working with criminal.


-----------I am very angry, i can't reply, it limited my time of post it, only 5 per day.. but there are more than 50 comments i need to reply.
-----------I am very angry, i can't reply, it limited my time of post it, only 5 per day.. but there are more than 50 comments i need to reply.
-----------I am very angry, i can't reply, it limited my time of post it, only 5 per day.. but there are more than 50 comments i need to reply.

Dr. HFH

OK, caa, I just read your long post immediately above. I admit that I don't understand most of it, possibly due to language problems. So let's start with something simple.

You say that you have PLT status in SPG but that you've only stayed 20 nights in SPG hotels in your life. Can you help us understand how that happened?