Cities where Marriott hotels are better than Starwood hotels?
Sep 27, 2016, 5:28 am
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Considering that point redemption is quite high for SPG in Taipei, the Courtyard as a Cat 5 seems like a good way to redeem if one is tight on points.
Sep 27, 2016, 5:57 am
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Bucharest, Romania:
JW Marriott Grand superior to Sheraton
JW Marriott Grand superior to Sheraton
Sep 27, 2016, 6:08 am
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Not right at the airport, but a half-hour away from MCI is the excellent Sheraton Overland Park. There is a full Marriott there too, but I think the Sheraton is the best choice.
Sep 27, 2016, 7:21 am
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So neither is better than the other in New Zealand...
Accor is dominating there including 3 Sofitels and a Pullman and a Sofitel So under construction. Hilton already has 5 places in the country and plans for more. Park Hyatt is under construction in Auckland.
Not any single SPG or Marriott in the whole country...
Accor is dominating there including 3 Sofitels and a Pullman and a Sofitel So under construction. Hilton already has 5 places in the country and plans for more. Park Hyatt is under construction in Auckland.
Not any single SPG or Marriott in the whole country...
Sep 27, 2016, 8:19 am
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hong kong - RC and W are same owner
singapore - RC and conrad are same owner
no, but as mentioned Autograph is what to watch. hmm, do they still do ashford castle and dromoland castle? thought they got rid of those when they got rid of orient express (belmond) trains.
RC Reserve brand is not part of rewards (along with RC singapore)
singapore - RC and conrad are same owner
RC Reserve brand is not part of rewards (along with RC singapore)
Sep 27, 2016, 8:29 am
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Marroitt (Protea) wins South Africa by strength of numbers.
Sep 27, 2016, 8:43 am
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A friend gave me some insight last year.
Downtown, there is a R-C, Marriott, historic Renaissance and Autograph. Plus one or two other brands. A buddy told me they are looking at a JW Marriott and a 2nd R-C in Univ. Circle near the museums.
Starwood is playing catch up . Downtown there is a very very nice Westin, & Aloft and soon to be Le Meridien. The W is planned for the Warehouse or Gateway District as well as a luxury boutique property near Perk Park. Since Hilton built a Convention property, Sheraton is looking at adding one as well.
A friend gave me some insight last year.
Downtown, there is a R-C, Marriott, historic Renaissance and Autograph. Plus one or two other brands. A buddy told me they are looking at a JW Marriott and a 2nd R-C in Univ. Circle near the museums.
Starwood is playing catch up . Downtown there is a very very nice Westin, & Aloft and soon to be Le Meridien. The W is planned for the Warehouse or Gateway District as well as a luxury boutique property near Perk Park. Since Hilton built a Convention property, Sheraton is looking at adding one as well.
Sep 27, 2016, 8:44 am
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Was coming to post the same thing. My first spg experience was the FP at MCI and that was not a good start but I tried a couple of others including the FP KC sports complex and they were a little better.
You can add Omaha, Lincoln, Madison, Tulsa and Des Moines to the list as well.
Omaha only has a rundown Sheraton and an Element and Des Moines only has a Sheraton in West Des Moines. Tulsa only has an aloft but the Marriott has several FS properties. (In fact the Ren is one of my kids favorite hotels and they have stayed hundreds of nights right alongside me) Madison only has a Sheraton but in fairness I haven't stayed there just the FS Marriott. Lincoln has no SPG properties. It might be necessary for folks to travel to Des Moines, Madison or Lincoln since they happen to be the location of the state governments.
You can add the whole state of SD since spg only has one property. The Springhill suite in Deadwood is another great Marriott property (not a full service but they have a bar and attached restaurant and casino)
You can add Omaha, Lincoln, Madison, Tulsa and Des Moines to the list as well.
Omaha only has a rundown Sheraton and an Element and Des Moines only has a Sheraton in West Des Moines. Tulsa only has an aloft but the Marriott has several FS properties. (In fact the Ren is one of my kids favorite hotels and they have stayed hundreds of nights right alongside me) Madison only has a Sheraton but in fairness I haven't stayed there just the FS Marriott. Lincoln has no SPG properties. It might be necessary for folks to travel to Des Moines, Madison or Lincoln since they happen to be the location of the state governments.
You can add the whole state of SD since spg only has one property. The Springhill suite in Deadwood is another great Marriott property (not a full service but they have a bar and attached restaurant and casino)
The Madison Sheraton seems fine, although it's out of town. IIRC the indoor pool could use some renovations. I think their lounge had free alcohol about five years ago, but I haven't stayed recently.
I can't picture any full service Marriotts in Madison. In Des Moines, it's an older convention property but IIRC there's a newer Renaissance.
Sep 27, 2016, 8:49 am
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Press Hotel - Autograph. Newish hotel built in an old newspaper headquarters. Spacious room, good toiletries, good restaurant, etc
http://www.thepresshotel.com/
Slightly better than the comparable Westin based on TripAdvisor
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin...language=en_US
Press Hotel - Autograph. Newish hotel built in an old newspaper headquarters. Spacious room, good toiletries, good restaurant, etc
http://www.thepresshotel.com/
Slightly better than the comparable Westin based on TripAdvisor
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin...language=en_US
Sep 27, 2016, 9:35 am
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Quebec City...the Delta beats Hotel Pur and 4pts Levis. This may flip when Pur finishes its renovations but right now the Delta is your best option.
Sep 27, 2016, 9:52 am
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My point w/Paris is that the "best" Marriott properties are Marriott/Renaissance...not an RC or other top-tier brands in the portfolio, or even an interesting Autograph. I just found it a bit surprising.
The equivalent would have been if SPG's best were Westin/Sheraton...but there's an LC, a W, new Tributes, etc.
Again, I'm sure there are plenty of other cities where the reverse is true (like London as previously discussed), I just looked at Paris since I'm going there next year and I was a bit surprised.
The equivalent would have been if SPG's best were Westin/Sheraton...but there's an LC, a W, new Tributes, etc.
Again, I'm sure there are plenty of other cities where the reverse is true (like London as previously discussed), I just looked at Paris since I'm going there next year and I was a bit surprised.
I'm going from memory here but I think Marriott, when it acquired RC, was prohibited from having a RC in either London or Paris (something to do w/ the current Ritz that exists in London & Paris).
I think there was a Ren that opened not long ago that was supposed to in cool area/be a bit more trendy but I'd have to look it up. There are 3 Autographs in France, but not in Paris.
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Sep 27, 2016, 5:24 pm
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Sep 27, 2016, 5:41 pm
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2nd on cleveland. i'll throw orlando into the mix too with the JWM and Ritz though this might be more controversial depending on your trip goals...
Sep 27, 2016, 5:47 pm
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This can become a worthless thread if we don't simply accept the following likely outcome:
Marriott will win almost always whenever there is a RC or EDITION and no StR or Lux Collection.
SPG will win almost always whenever there is a StR or Lux Collection and no RC (or the rare EDITION).
Between EDITION and W, it's usually the EDITION--but there are only 4. The Ws are MUCH better now.
When the best is a JW or W or even Lux Collection, it's more likely a toss up based on style/location preference.
After that, good luck wasting your time debating each person' peculiar preferences with the many other brands.
Marriott will win almost always whenever there is a RC or EDITION and no StR or Lux Collection.
SPG will win almost always whenever there is a StR or Lux Collection and no RC (or the rare EDITION).
Between EDITION and W, it's usually the EDITION--but there are only 4. The Ws are MUCH better now.
When the best is a JW or W or even Lux Collection, it's more likely a toss up based on style/location preference.
After that, good luck wasting your time debating each person' peculiar preferences with the many other brands.
Sep 27, 2016, 10:57 pm
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