Sep 22, 2016, 11:20 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
Apr 10, 2018, 2:47 pm
#1471
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
For anyone who is attending the NYC gala, please DM me. For everyone else, there's even more bad news on the horizon. Starwood's Canadian CCC in facing death from a thousand cuts. Employee benefits have been slashed or denied as Marriott shifts call centre operations to Mexico.
Apr 10, 2018, 3:49 pm
#1472
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,990
X2 source? I think until there is an official announcement it's mere speculation some most likely well founded others wishful thinking. In the end all these programs are changing just as travel is changing in many ways it's just not fun anymore save some nice international flights. One's "free" nights are not so free anymore. We can all thank "equity capitol" for most of this crap. I know as I own a construction company dealing with many of the flags. I have seen stuff that is not printable.
Apr 10, 2018, 4:08 pm
#1473
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: Accor PLT,Thai Silver, HH Dia, SPG Titanium (LT Gold), Aegean Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 5,120
Well just read this article and started to get very worried for the first time:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
Apr 10, 2018, 4:48 pm
#1474
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
Well just read this article and started to get very worried for the first time:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
Gary does qualify with this statement: " I put less stock in these rumors "
Apr 10, 2018, 4:51 pm
#1475
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: LHR
Programs: Accor PLT,Thai Silver, HH Dia, SPG Titanium (LT Gold), Aegean Gold, BA Silver
Posts: 5,120
Damon, I agree however until we see the detail in the beast we just worry as far too much speculation now.
Apr 10, 2018, 4:51 pm
#1476
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
Well just read this article and started to get very worried for the first time:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...ram-starwoods/
Gary does qualify with this statement: " I put less stock in these rumors "
I will admit that I am surprised there are over 300 posts discussing this on Marriott and little here. I suppose everyone knows how useless it is to speculate. Fortunately we won't have to wait too long for verified details
The only potentially good thing about speculation is that if it turns out better we will be relieved.
Apr 10, 2018, 5:28 pm
#1477
Join Date: Dec 2011
Programs: WOOD PLAT, HYATT GLOB, SOUTH A-LIST+, UNITED SILVER
Posts: 167
Just to be perfectly clear, the new Marriott Rewards/Starwood Preferred Guest program is not starting August 1. Marriott is giving a heads up in announcing details of the new program, status levels, related requirements and changes to benefits, over the next couple of weeks so that no one can say they were unaware of the changes! These changes will not go into effect until January 2019, and really won't impact anyone's status until 2020!
Regards,
RIP...
Regards,
RIP...
Apr 10, 2018, 7:16 pm
#1478
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,838
A couple of the Bangkok hotels boast of 50+ Platinum guests per night. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is common around the world.
From higher end Bangkok ones like the SGS and WGS, to the Royal Orchid, and even the lower 4Pts and Aloft properties, I see NO reason to stay at ANY of them without the current benefits.
Imagine staying at the ROS in one of their crappy standard rooms with no Lounge, upgrades, or breakfast.
**Losing 50 Plats a night = over 18,000 room nights per year! Per hotel.
Do they think there are no choices? We’ve all got status with other chains! Status matches will be our parachutes!
Imagine staying at the ROS in one of their crappy standard rooms with no Lounge, upgrades, or breakfast.
**Losing 50 Plats a night = over 18,000 room nights per year! Per hotel.
Do they think there are no choices? We’ve all got status with other chains! Status matches will be our parachutes!
Apr 10, 2018, 8:51 pm
#1479
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
A statement that poster has heard would be more accurate. Seems like only a handful of people can post with the level of clarity suggested by that post and they're not posting because they don't want to get fired for violating their NDA.
Apr 11, 2018, 7:15 am
#1480
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
John just caught the "source". A flyer in Chinese (and english) was posted giving the August merger date:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/10/...8/?omhide=true
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/10/...8/?omhide=true
Apr 11, 2018, 8:11 am
#1481
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: JFK, DCA, BUR, YVR
Programs: AC, AS, BA, DL, HH (D), MR (T/LTP), UA (*S), UScAAre (PLT/1,87MM), WN
Posts: 5,207
Apr 11, 2018, 9:13 am
#1482
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
John just caught the "source". A flyer in Chinese (and english) was posted giving the August merger date:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/10/...8/?omhide=true
https://loyaltylobby.com/2018/04/10/...8/?omhide=true
This is a blog copying FT .... the source is a posting on FT that was copied by the blogs.
Rumors upon rumors upon speculation.
Apr 11, 2018, 10:02 am
#1483
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,990
Apr 11, 2018, 11:14 am
#1484
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
Man, if I worked for a rival hotel chain, I could have a field day stirring up some FUD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_...inty_and_doubt
Apr 11, 2018, 2:49 pm
#1485
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: UA 1MM, AA Plat, Marriott LT Titanium, Hyatt Glob, IHG ♢ Amb, Hilton ♢, Hertz Pres
Posts: 6,017
I didn't realize John was copying FT. He usually mentions that when he gets info here... in this case he didn't. Annoying. Sorry for posting something that was already here.