Sep 22, 2016, 11:20 pm
Last edit by: SkiAdcock
Deal closed Sep 23 - http://news.marriott.com/2016/09/marriott-international-expanded-loyalty-benefits/
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
FAQ :
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#will-rewards-and-spg-be-turning-into-one-program
Will Rewards and SPG be turning into one program?
These are two of the best programs in the industry, and we want you to benefit from everything that makes SPG and Rewards great. We don’t anticipate that the two programs will come together before 2018, and we will keep you informed of any updates. In the meantime, there’s no change to how you book reservations, manage your accounts or earn Elite night credits, points and miles in the current programs
Status Matches
MR Platinum <--> SPG Platinum
MR Gold <--> SPG Gold
MR Silver <--> SPG Preferred Plus
MR Member <--> SPG Preferred
If your status changes (i.e. Gold->Plat) in one program, your status in the other program will be automatically upgraded within 24 hours per Marriott FAQ
You can now link your Marriott Rewards or Ritz-Carlton Rewards account with your SPG account.
To link your accounts, log in to either account at:
http://www.spg.com/linkmarriott
http://members.marriott.com/
It will be a 3:1 transfer ratio between MR-SPG
If I have Lifetime Status in one of the programs, will I also get it in the other program when I link my accounts?
This is the Official Answer : "We appreciate your loyalty! Lifetime Status is specific to the program that you earned it in. While linking accounts will not result in Lifetime Status in the other program, your Elite status will be matched to the same Elite tier in the other program. Any existing Lifetime Status you already hold within either program will still be enjoyed within that program. We’re working on more ways to recognize your loyalty and Lifetime Status as we work towards harmonizing the programs, which we don’t anticipate happening until 2018."
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT change lifetime MR points.
Transferring points from SPG to MR does NOT count as activity & therefore does not extend the expiration date of points.
SPG platinum member matched to MR plat and now interested in the MR - UA Silver status match ? Check here.
Updated Terms and Conditions for the two programs can be found at
http://members.marriott.com/terms-conditions/
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/preferredguest/legal/spg_terms.html
Complete listing of all the hotel brands in the in the merged company :
http://www.marriott.com/marriott-brands.mi#ourbrands
http://www.marriott.com/Images/Brands/brands_page_2016/global_architecture_images/US_MAR_SPG_brand_architecture.png
Marriott/Starwood merger closed; FAQs; Status Match; MR & SPG accounts can be linked
Apr 9, 2018, 3:41 pm
#1411
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,166
Source? That's a pretty bold claim...also doesn't make much sense that they wouldn't do a new joint program given how much time they've had to think about it...
Apr 9, 2018, 4:04 pm
#1412
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
FWIW a commenter on the above blog post claims an agent told him the SPG to airline transfers will end on 16 Apr 18.
I'll take that with a grain of salt without additional verification, but it does raise the question of advance notice for what will surely be the eventual death of the SPG transfer program in its current state. While you'd think they would give advance notice, nothing would shock me.
I'll take that with a grain of salt without additional verification, but it does raise the question of advance notice for what will surely be the eventual death of the SPG transfer program in its current state. While you'd think they would give advance notice, nothing would shock me.
Apr 9, 2018, 4:07 pm
#1413
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Aeroplan Diamond, SPG Plat, Hilton Gold, Marriott
Posts: 1,839
Will the new program allow the second and third room booked for the same stay count towards night credits?
Apr 9, 2018, 4:23 pm
#1414
Join Date: Jul 1999
Programs: QF WP, AA EXP
Posts: 3,520
This is interesting that they would make these changes in the middle of the year.
I've gotta figure out what to do about LTP and there seem to be no details about that yet... I'm 33 stays away and was thinking I had the rest of the year to do it. Hoping that is still the case, otherwise I'm gonna be doing some vacations and mattress runs soon...
I've gotta figure out what to do about LTP and there seem to be no details about that yet... I'm 33 stays away and was thinking I had the rest of the year to do it. Hoping that is still the case, otherwise I'm gonna be doing some vacations and mattress runs soon...
Apr 9, 2018, 5:00 pm
#1415
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: YVR
Programs: AC*SE MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 4,604
Unfortunately, this appears to mean earned Lifetime PLatinum is now only good for the 3rd of 5 tiers. Not much different for SPG, but a downgrade for MR. And with the combined programs/properties, I suspect there will be many more 75s and 100s than there will be for the previous SPG. Similar to LT USAir who dropped to 3 of 5 with AA.
I can only hope LT PLT in both results in LT PP. But I'm not holding my breath.
I can only hope LT PLT in both results in LT PP. But I'm not holding my breath.
Not sure why they even bother with Silver. Just do 25 / 50 / 75 / 100.
Apr 9, 2018, 5:10 pm
#1416
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: La Jolla, CA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, Lifetime Titanium, Delta Plat, Hilton Diamond , Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,615
I hope you are correct and LTP will be at least 2nd tier. The speculation about Silver is so that they can hand that out with the basic credit card.
Apr 9, 2018, 6:45 pm
#1417
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,369
I hope not.
Apr 9, 2018, 6:49 pm
#1418
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,369
This is interesting that they would make these changes in the middle of the year.
I've gotta figure out what to do about LTP and there seem to be no details about that yet... I'm 33 stays away and was thinking I had the rest of the year to do it. Hoping that is still the case, otherwise I'm gonna be doing some vacations and mattress runs soon...
I've gotta figure out what to do about LTP and there seem to be no details about that yet... I'm 33 stays away and was thinking I had the rest of the year to do it. Hoping that is still the case, otherwise I'm gonna be doing some vacations and mattress runs soon...
Don't you mean 33 nights? Getting 25 stays would be another year of earned Plat, and therefore LTP if you have the 500 total nights.
Apr 9, 2018, 7:19 pm
#1420
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Apr 9, 2018, 7:26 pm
#1421
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 314
Someone commented on that blog post and said an SPG agent told her transfers to airline miles is ending 4/16. This has me and others in a bit of a panic. Do you think this is possible?
Apr 9, 2018, 7:31 pm
#1422
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
Apr 9, 2018, 7:32 pm
#1423
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
All Onemileatatime is doing is summarizing the purported leak from FT ... they don't claim it to be accurate or to be an independent source. Much of it has the "ring of truth" but its still not a final release.
Apr 9, 2018, 7:41 pm
#1424
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 1999
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 15,345
As someone who qualifies as SPG PLT with stays, changing the program in August wouldn't sit well with me.
Apr 9, 2018, 7:51 pm
#1425
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CGK/LAX
Programs: KF,JMB, OZ, SPG,AA,UA,AS
Posts: 1,163
I was nervous when I saw that as well, but Tiffany from OMAAT commented that all of the posts related to airline transfers ending were from the same person. Perhaps someone just wants to cause panic?
