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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)
• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. Your initial booking should also be only for one occupant. If you require a room for more than one, indicate this in the comments section. The BRG team will verify if additional charges are required for more than one occupant and the rate will be modified accordingly.

Differing currencies
• "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

Practicalities During/After Stay
• Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
• If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "send confirmation" link for the BRG reservation
• reload the page and you should be able to now select "apply SNA to this stay" link

POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Amoma show it as a double room but I am interested in what others see when they follow the link to confirm my numerical literacy or dyslexia







Double Room
2 Adults, 0 Children Room only 132 $ /night
Best price 132 $
1 night(s) Book
Last room!


3:57AM EST. Sun Jan 17.

$219 USD. Best price, last room. Using your link...
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 4:57 am
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
3:57AM EST. Sun Jan 17.

$219 USD. Best price, last room. Using your link...

Thanks

Most bizarre - going through my link, going directly through amoma and searching on hotels combined right now all give me the price of $132+ tax =$157 total.

Maybe I am just special :-:
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 5:23 am
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Hotel Name : The Westin St. Francis San Francisco on Union Square
Date(s) : 4 nights in late March 2016
Number of Adults : 2
Room Type : Classic room, Landmark Building
Starwood Rate : USD 236 plus taxes per night
Competing Website : Expedia.co.th
Competing rate : USD 766 plus taxes per stay
Comments : found competing website via hotelscombined.com
BRG Reward : twentyPercent
Actual confirmed rate: 153.57 USD plus taxes per night (191.96 USD - 20%)

I had stayed here once about 2 years ago. i was upgraded to a tower building room on high floor, it was fine. Curious to know about platinum breakfast amenity here.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Thanks

Most bizarre - going through my link, going directly through amoma and searching on hotels combined right now all give me the price of $132+ tax =$157 total.

Maybe I am just special :-:

Not at all.

There are always country/IP-specific rates. Cookies. Maybe the website even checks your computers time zone setting.

Try this - open an incognito/private browsing window, to hopefully remove the effect of any cookies that might be on your computer, and then try your link again.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
Not at all.

There are always country/IP-specific rates. Cookies. Maybe the website even checks your computers time zone setting.
Not at all what? Are you saying that this is not bizarre or that I am not special ?

The lower rate availability is no longer so I can't check but how would my IP address/time zone/whatever affect what the hotelscombined.com search returns for Amoma? How does Amoma see through the hotelscombined search engine where I am located?
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Not at all what? Are you saying that this is not bizarre or that I am not special ?

The lower rate availability is no longer so I can't check but how would my IP address/time zone/whatever affect what the hotelscombined.com search returns for Amoma? How does Amoma see through the hotelscombined search engine where I am located?

Cookies as indicated. However, this is going way off topic.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 6:15 am
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found a great rate at otel.com via hotelscombined.com for the st. regis mumbai for a 4 night stay next month....the rate is almost half of what spg.com is displaying....only problem is that this hotel used to be known as 'palladium' before shifting over to the st. regis a few months ago....a search for 'st. regis' yields no results but searching for 'palladium' shows the lower rate....once hotelscombined takes you over to otel.com then the name correctly shows as the st. regis....i mentioned this part in the comments section while submitting the claim....hopefully it will get approved....
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by 3544quebec
Not at all what? Are you saying that this is not bizarre or that I am not special ?

The lower rate availability is no longer so I can't check but how would my IP address/time zone/whatever affect what the hotelscombined.com search returns for Amoma? How does Amoma see through the hotelscombined search engine where I am located?

Not at all bizaare. But you can take it the other way too

Hey you didn't mention you found it through hotelscombined... so it's a click-through rate? If it is, then that explains why. Presumably hotelscombined loads a cookie into your PC to display the preferential rate when you reach amoma.

There's nothing wrong with a click-through rate... it can be BRGed too but you have to specify in the comments the steps you took to reach the rate...

Anyway, yes, the rate is gone, no point flogging the dead horse now...
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by travelswithmyself
There's nothing wrong with a click-through rate... it can be BRGed too but you have to specify in the comments the steps you took to reach the rate...
+1

I think this must drive some of the BRG staff crazy when full details are not provided and if I were them, I would deny the claim.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 5:06 pm
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Strange email from Hotel..

"It has come to my attention that you are booking through alternate websites and submitting a claim for the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis.. At this time we are actively trying to shut down these sites as they are not approved to sell these rates as general inventory.. As well these Best Rate Guarantee create an awareness in Starwood of persistent users as well as these unusual websites.

Mr. XXXX, if I could ask that you and I have a conversation with regards to your booking needs while you are in Richmond.. I can then perhaps save you the trouble of submitting a Best Rate Guarantee while also not bringing your account to Starwood.. Starwood routinely asks us if we feel there is an individual and / or company that uses the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis."

Do you guys find this odd? It's making feel awkward...
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by supatight80
"It has come to my attention that you are booking through alternate websites and submitting a claim for the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis.. At this time we are actively trying to shut down these sites as they are not approved to sell these rates as general inventory.. As well these Best Rate Guarantee create an awareness in Starwood of persistent users as well as these unusual websites.

Mr. XXXX, if I could ask that you and I have a conversation with regards to your booking needs while you are in Richmond.. I can then perhaps save you the trouble of submitting a Best Rate Guarantee while also not bringing your account to Starwood.. Starwood routinely asks us if we feel there is an individual and / or company that uses the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis."

Do you guys find this odd? It's making feel awkward...


This is unbelievable. Richmond VA or Richmond BC? I have my suspicions as to the answer here.

I would bring this to the attention of the Starwood BRG Team immediately if I were you and follow-up with a phone call. This property is out of line and some bean counter has their knickers in a knot. Unusual websites...too funny.

I eagerly await fellow FTers thoughts.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by supatight80
"It has come to my attention that you are booking through alternate websites and submitting a claim for the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis.. At this time we are actively trying to shut down these sites as they are not approved to sell these rates as general inventory.. As well these Best Rate Guarantee create an awareness in Starwood of persistent users as well as these unusual websites.

Mr. XXXX, if I could ask that you and I have a conversation with regards to your booking needs while you are in Richmond.. I can then perhaps save you the trouble of submitting a Best Rate Guarantee while also not bringing your account to Starwood.. Starwood routinely asks us if we feel there is an individual and / or company that uses the Best Rate Guarantee on a regular basis."

Do you guys find this odd? It's making feel awkward...
Would you mind sending this email to us at the email address below?

TIA

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

[email protected]
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 5:17 pm
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Would you mind sending this email to us at the email address below?

TIA

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

[email protected]
My apologies, William. I never thought of you and your colleagues.

Quick off the draw and I hope that doesn't change with the upcoming merger. ^

After my dinner here in BOG, I will be grabbing some popcorn me thinks.
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Old Jan 18, 2016, 5:32 pm
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Originally Posted by PointWeasel
My apologies, William. I never thought of you and your colleagues.

Quick off the draw and I hope that doesn't change with the upcoming merger. ^

After my dinner here in BOG, I will be grabbing some popcorn me thinks.
If it involves interactions with the BRG team itself, we would prefer that it is escalated through that team, asking for a supervisor review, if necessary.

This is a bit different, however, so...

Best regards,

William R. Sanders
Social Media Specialist
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide

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Old Jan 18, 2016, 7:26 pm
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WOW, this is going to get interesting. I think the hotel is going to get into trouble
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