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What is the Best Rate Guarantee (BRG ?)
If a lower rate at a Starwood Hotel is made available on a non-Starwood website or non-Starwood mobile application, upon its receipt of a claim that satisfies these Best Rate Guarantee terms and conditions, Starwood will honor that Competing Rate and provide the individual that submitted the valid claim one of the following rewards: (1) an additional 20% discount off the Competing Rate per room per night (up to a maximum of three rooms); or (2) 2,000 Starwood Preferred Guest® Starpoints® per room per stay (up to a maximum of three rooms).

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• You cannot BRG against a rate on a Starwood Website/App (hot escapes, promos, Gov. Rate etc.). It has to be a 3rd party website/App.
• Cancellation policy has no bearing on a BRG claim with one exception if the rate difference is within 1%.
"Starwood may deny claims where the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent; provided that Starwood will not use the fact that the difference between the Competing Rate and the rate on the Starwood Website is less than one percent to deny such claims if the cancellation policy for the Competing Rate is more favorable to the guest than the cancellation policy for the rate on the Starwood Website."
A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG
• If a room category is available on an external website but not on Starwood, you may still make a claim. You still need to make a booking with Starwood using any other category of room - if your claim is approved the room type in the booking will be modified to match the room type you are claiming for
• Only one claim may be submitted per reservation number (If your first claim is denied, you may submit a new claim for that reservation if you find another lower rate after you receive the denial email)
• Make sure to book a flexible rate on SPG.com. This will allow you to then cancel this booking if you find a lower Starwood rate later (like the hot escapes etc.) or if your travel plans change.
• You can BRG with a flexible rate against a prepaid rate. In other words, if expedia is offering a room for $100 prepaid, and spg.com shows a prepaid room for $150 or a flexible room for $200, you can book the FLEXIBLE spg.com rate and BRG it against the PREPAID $100 expedia rate. And you will receive the flexible cancel terms if the BRG is approved.
• If your comparable rate includes extras like breakfast or parking, make sure there is a room available on spg.com that includes the exact amenities. If there is the same room type with the same amenities on SPG.com, they will compare and if lower on third party, the claim may be approved for the room type and with the amenities. If there is the same room type available but no/different amenities offered, the claim may still be approved, but the rate will be room only.
• Room types must be the same for a BRG.
• If you have an approved and finalized claim and you find an even cheaper rate later, then you may submit a new BRG claim that is not connected to any existing reservation. If this BRG claim is approved, you will need to make a new flexible reservation on SPG.com. Once the process is completed, you will then email the BRG desk to cancel your first reservation, if it is within the cancellation deadline.
• If you find availability for the room type you want on a third party website/app but there is no availability for that room type or no availability for any room type on the Starwood Website, then this may be an approved claim if it meets all other terms and conditions. You will need to make sure that you specify the room type you actually want on the Starwood Website section and enter 0 in the rate and currency. This will ensure that the processing associates know that the room type you want is not available on the Starwood Website. You may also add additional comments near the end of the claim form indicating that there is no availability on the Starwood Website to help clarify.
• Per the FAQ, "Any questions regarding claims should be directed to [email protected] or call 1-866-500-0368." A human is available at this number beginning at 9am EST.

OTAs not eligible because they do not confirm instantly:
  • AsiaWeb
  • Cancelon
  • Ctrip
  • Elvoline
  • HappyRooms
  • Hoteling
  • HotelsClick (Some rates on request, some instant)
  • Ostrovok
  • Roomertravel
  • Laterooms (according to BRG team 24 Oct 2016)


Special Conditions for BRG & Design Hotels
  • You may only claim against the absolute lowest rate on SPG.com, for the date(s) in question.
  • The rate must be the lowest on sale on SPG.com, and is regardless of the type of room you actually want, the number of occupants, cancellation policy and the amenities provided. In all likelihood this will mean you have to use a rate for a standard room, for 1 person, non-refundable and without any amenities.
  • It is not necessary for the rate on the external website to match the SPG.com rate in any way including room type and number of occupants. The only requirement for a successful BRG claim is that the rate be lower than the lowest rate on SPG.com for the date(s) in question.
  • As with normal BRG claims, you need to make a booking before submitting a claim. Since this will likely be a non-refundable booking, note that you are responsible for any and all charges including cancellation charges, even if the claim is not approved.
  • Amenities that are included in the external website's rate but which are not included in the Starwood rate may or may not be provided.
  • You will retain the category of room booked on SPG.com, even if the external website rate submitted for the claim refers to a different category of room. This is especially pertinent in situations where the hotel continues to sell lower categories of rooms on other websites, while not making them available on SPG.com. You will then be able to book a higher category of room on SPG.com, BRG the lower rate, and retain the higher category of room while paying the lower rate.
  • The BRG will be processed for a single occupant, even if the rate does not change for more than one occupant. Your initial booking should also be only for one occupant. If you require a room for more than one, indicate this in the comments section. The BRG team will verify if additional charges are required for more than one occupant and the rate will be modified accordingly.

Differing currencies
• "The Best Rate Guarantee department will approve a claim if there is a difference of 2.5% or greater where the currencies are different or a difference of 1% or greater if the currencies are the same."

Link to T&C
https://www.starwoodhotels.com/bestrate/terms.html

Practicalities During/After Stay
• Reconfirm your rate at check-in; normally the hotel will have the correct BRG rate in your reservation, but sometimes you will need to remind them.
• If you choose points, they will be credited after the stay; check in one week to see if they have posted. If not contact the BRG office to arrange to have them posted.

How to add a SNA to a BRG reservation
• Log into your SPG account
• Click on your stays to view our your current reservation
• Look for your BRG reservation and click on "send confirmation" link for the BRG reservation
• reload the page and you should be able to now select "apply SNA to this stay" link

POSTING FORMAT

Hotel Name:
Arrival Date:
Departure Date:
Number of Rooms:
Number of Guests:
Room Type:
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate:
Company Room Provider:
Other Company Room Provider:
Competing rate:
Comments:

Q: Are SPG benefits honored for BRG stays?
A: Yes. You should receive the same SPG elite member benefits and stay/night credit as for a normal paid stay.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 5:39 pm
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You may consider booking to separate reservations. I am not sure how things work if you do a BRG with two reservations?
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by alamedaguy
Any advice?
How about making two bookings and two claims? You can add a note to the comments describing what you're doing and why.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 6:10 pm
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BRG at Westin Bayshore - Vancouver, Canada

Hey guys,

need your help with a BRG claim I submitted earlier today.
FYI, this is my first time submitting a claim and I tried to follow the rules layed out on top of this thread.

Trying to BRG the Westin Bayshore in Vancouver, Canada.

Found a better rate (USD 159) on Agoda (Hotwire also available for a few dollars more) for a traditional king size room, which isn't available anymore on Westin website.
It actually only had the accessible option available (USD 252).

So I just submitted the claim without making a booking on Westin website and submitted it thinking that was the correct way of going about it.

• A valid Starwood website reservation is required to submit a BRG (only exception is when there is no availability on the Starwood website)
Few hours later I get below email back.

Am I in the "wrong" here, or should they have honored the claim?


Dear Mr. N,

Thank you for your interest in the Starwood Hotels & Resorts Best Rate Guarantee program regarding your upcoming trip to Canada.

I will advise, our Best Rate Guarantee Terms and Conditions have been updated and a valid claim now requires an existing Starwood confirmation number, provided our property is not completely sold out. Please be sure to re-submit your claim with a valid confirmation number so your claim will not be deemed incomplete. You may view our current rates and availability for The Westin Bayshore, Vancouver via our Westin website. As an SPG member, complimentary Internet access is awarded for stays reserved through our branded websites. The Best Rate Guarantee form is located here.

We appreciate you choosing Starwood for your travels, Mr. Neeser, and we look forward to accommodating you soon. Do have a wonderful week and may each stay with us be a pleasant and rewarding one.


Best Regards,


Associate, Best Rate Guarantee
Starwood Hotels & Resorts Worldwide
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by tnkngn
So I just submitted the claim without making a booking on Westin website and submitted it thinking that was the correct way of going about it.
If there are any rooms available on spg.com, you should book one even if it's the wrong room type. They will adjust it to be the right room type later.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 6:40 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
If there are any rooms available on spg.com, you should book one even if it's the wrong room type. They will adjust it to be the right room type later.
Thank you for your prompt reply!

Agoda and Hotwire rate seems to be gone

Any advice what to do now?
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by tnkngn
Agoda and Hotwire rate seems to be gone

Any advice what to do now?
Move on and wait for your next BRG opportunity.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
Move on and wait for your next BRG opportunity.
Will do just that.

Saying this, do the chances of a BRG opportunity increase or decrease as it itches closer to the stay date?

Been monitoring the pricing at the Westin Bayshore for a bit, but only got around to doing the BRG today.
There was a Amoma rate that seemed to come and go over a period of time, Agoda and Hotwire only showed earlier today.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by tnkngn
do the chances of a BRG opportunity increase or decrease as it itches closer to the stay date?
It really varies. Sometimes the opportunities go up as SPG rates rise, and sometimes they go down as third-party inventory dries up.

BTW, the Bayshore is often ripe for BRG - I've gotten quite a few there over the years.
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 7:42 pm
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Westin Bayshore, Vancouver, Canada

Originally Posted by mahasamatman
It really varies. Sometimes the opportunities go up as SPG rates rise, and sometimes they go down as third-party inventory dries up.

BTW, the Bayshore is often ripe for BRG - I've gotten quite a few there over the years.
Thanks for your help & advice!

Update:

searched a different date range (from Jan 7th - 10th instead of Jan 5th - 10th) and re-submitted my claim, 3rd party site is Amoma.
Got approved this time

Rate between Jan 5th - 7th is lower anyways, so no need to BRG.



Hotel Name: Westin Bayshore, Vancouver, Canada
Arrival Date: January 7th
Departure Date: January 10th
Number of Rooms: 1
Number of Guests: 1
Room Type: Accessible, non-smoking: King Bed
Starwood Brand Web Site Room Rate: CAD 315.33
Company Room Provider: Amoma
Competing rate: CAD 137.44
Actual confirmed rate: CAD 109.95 plus taxes and fees

Last edited by tnkngn; Jan 4, 2016 at 10:52 am Reason: Update
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Old Jan 3, 2016, 11:15 pm
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Has anyone came across BRG team required you to make a booking on the 3rd party website and screenshot the confirmation for them to review?

What will happen if the competing rate is prepaid and credit card will be charged upon booking?
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 11:47 am
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I had this once when the BRG team said that the website I was claiming against was "inactive" while I had made a non-SPG reservation on that site just a few days earlier which made me state otherwise. Citing that I was told to make a SPG-reservation on that site and then submit that confirmation to them to prove that the site is indeed still active.

They would not provide, on the other hand, any proof of their claim that the site is inactive...given that I decided not to follow up on that request.

Greetings - Dirk
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 1:35 pm
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Run into an interesting new issue. SPG.com showed USD 413.40 rate when searched, but changed to USD 436.80 when clicked. I can only book USD 436.80 on spg.com while expedia.com can book at USD 413.60.

I booked USD 436.80 and filed BRG. BRG team denied it as I didn't book the lowest rate. I responded with detailed instruction then BRG team agreed but still cannot approve BRG. The spg.com rate displayed is the same as expedia.com, although that rate is not bookable on spg.com. BRG team says will contact hotel for resolution in five business days. IMHO, spg should at least honor the lower displayed, but not bookable, rate.

Last edited by TerryK; Jan 4, 2016 at 2:07 pm
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Old Jan 4, 2016, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by tfong007
You may consider booking to separate reservations. I am not sure how things work if you do a BRG with two reservations?
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
How about making two bookings and two claims? You can add a note to the comments describing what you're doing and why.
Thanks. I booked two reservations and they both got approved. If I remember, I'll report back on whether I get 2,000 for each room without additional effort.
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 7:28 am
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Hotel Name: Vana Belle, a Luxury Collection Resort, Koh Samui
Date(s): 3 nights in July 2016
Number of Adults: 2
Room Type: Classic pool suite with breakfast
Starwood Rate: THB 19858.51 per night
Competing website: galahotels.com
Competing rate: USD 1208 per stay
Comments: breakfast included. all taxes and fees included.
BRG Reward: twentyPercent

Actual confirmed rate: 9,755.14 THB plus taxes per night (12,193.93 THB less 20%)

Last edited by 3rdworldresident; Jan 5, 2016 at 6:36 pm Reason: To add competing website.
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Old Jan 5, 2016, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by 3rdworldresident
Hotel Name: Vana Belle, a Luxury Collection Resort, Koh Samui
Date(s): 3 nights in July 2016
Number of Adults: 2
Room Type: Classic pool suite with breakfast
Starwood Rate: THB 19858.51 per night
Competing rate: USD 1208 per stay
Comments: breakfast included. all taxes and fees included.
BRG Reward: twentyPercent

Actual confirmed rate: 9,755.14 THB plus taxes per night (12,193.93 THB less 20%)
You mind sharing the website you used for the BRG claim?
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