Can a hotel go back on a Your24 approved reservation - Sheraton Zurich
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Can a hotel go back on a Your24 approved reservation - Sheraton Zurich
The T&Cs that I found are a little unclear on this - so it appears to me that an approved Your24 is somewhat binding:
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
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The T&Cs that I found are a little unclear on this - so it appears to me that an approved Your24 is somewhat binding:
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
This existing thread may be of some help:
Discussion: Plats at 75 nights/year = 4 points per $ and Your24 check-in time
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...same at St. Regis NYC
The T&Cs that I found are a little unclear on this - so it appears to me that an approved Your24 is somewhat binding:
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
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Ambassador service responses tend to be slow... very slow... at least for me.
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Can we assume that there was not a confirmation of a SNA in the meantime? That apparently requires a new Your24 request and approval.
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The T&Cs that I found are a little unclear on this - so it appears to me that an approved Your24 is somewhat binding:
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
"v. If the specific room type reserved by an eligible SPG Member is not available upon check-in, the SPG Participating Hotel will honor the confirmed Your24 request by temporarily providing another room and then moving the applicable guests to the reserved room type once available."
I had requested, and got approved - a 2pm checkin at the Sheraton Zurich. This morning I got an email alleging that my reservation has changed, and the Your24 request has been resubmitted - and then a few hours later I got a mail that the request had been denied. I had not touched my reservation - and this feels a lot like the property is trying to get out of an approved request - which given that I was looking at checking in only one hour early shouldn't be that hard to make possible.
Thoughts? Or even better - experience with a situation like this? I sent a mail to my ambassador asking for clarification of the rules.
Always make a copy of your reservation email. I print out to PDF using the CutePDF program. Then you have a "hard copy" to confront the cheaters with.
For only an hour's difference, I'm not sure I'd make much of a stink about it; choose your battles.
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Nope no SNAs or anything else I can think of that would change the reservation. No response from Ambassador yet - no surprise there.
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To answer your question: Yes. The property did it in this case.
So, the question is what to do about it, not whether it can be done. Call the property, cut out the middlemen and ask why it's not possible to check in at 2:00 PM.
Who knows what they say, but I'll bet you that if there is one room ready, it will be yours.
So, the question is what to do about it, not whether it can be done. Call the property, cut out the middlemen and ask why it's not possible to check in at 2:00 PM.
Who knows what they say, but I'll bet you that if there is one room ready, it will be yours.
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To answer your question: Yes. The property did it in this case.
So, the question is what to do about it, not whether it can be done. Call the property, cut out the middlemen and ask why it's not possible to check in at 2:00 PM.
Who knows what they say, but I'll bet you that if there is one room ready, it will be yours.
So, the question is what to do about it, not whether it can be done. Call the property, cut out the middlemen and ask why it's not possible to check in at 2:00 PM.
Who knows what they say, but I'll bet you that if there is one room ready, it will be yours.
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Well, yesterday evening I got a mail from my ambassador that they are looking into it... Will let you know what if anything comes out of this. I don't hugely care if I can check in at 2 or 3 - I do care about the 9am at the Sheraton Frankfurt APT when I arrive in Europe ;-) - I was just a little ticked off that the hotel seems to try to cheat its way out of an approved earlier check in. (yes, I know that is an assumption)
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I think you need to fire your Ambassador and request a new assignment.
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Well, yesterday evening I got a mail from my ambassador that they are looking into it... Will let you know what if anything comes out of this. I don't hugely care if I can check in at 2 or 3 - I do care about the 9am at the Sheraton Frankfurt APT when I arrive in Europe ;-) - I was just a little ticked off that the hotel seems to try to cheat its way out of an approved earlier check in. (yes, I know that is an assumption)
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The Sheraton MXP let me check in ~6h early on a one-nighter. They've had my loyalty ever since
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Well, today's update from my ambassador was: "We're still looking into it"
I did get 9am approved for the Sheraton FRA - I do stay there often when I fly to Europe - maybe that helped - or it's just a slow day for them
I did get 9am approved for the Sheraton FRA - I do stay there often when I fly to Europe - maybe that helped - or it's just a slow day for them
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Fair to assume that flying_geek is using a Your24 in order to check in at 9AM at FRA, since s/he's the OP and seems to be experienced with Your24.