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jackhorse Jun 13, 2015 4:42 pm

Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok controls blackout date for award night (?)
 
Dear SPG lurker,

Please check it out award calendar at Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok. There is NO free night(award night) availability until early August(June, July and early dates of Auguest - even 1 single date) however Bangkok is not peak season and standard room is offering if book with paid night.

I am very curios Hotel did some tricks for controlling the availability date of award night. (or minimize number of standard rooms)

Biggest befit of SPG is no award blackout date if standard room is available. It's positive that the hotel control award inventory somehow.

could you please review?

RogerD408 Jun 13, 2015 6:49 pm


Originally Posted by jackhorse (Post 24965964)
Dear SPG lurker,

Please check it out award calendar at Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok. There is NO free night(award night) availability until early August(June, July and early dates of Auguest - even 1 single date) however Bangkok is not peak season and standard room is offering if book with paid night.

I am very curios Hotel did some tricks for controlling the availability date of award night. (or minimize number of standard rooms)

Biggest befit of SPG is no award blackout date if standard room is available. It's positive that the hotel control award inventory somehow.

could you please review?

Pulled up that property and saw rooms showing starting Aug 11. But more importantly it also showed:
If the Lowest Standard Rate is available for your dates and Free Nights are not, please contact us to book Free Nights.
The properties are responsible for loading the specific inventory so they've always had the ability to manipulate what shows up. Some will play games (just like guests do) but you can call them on it. You might try the link and let them know the specific dates you are interested in.

nongsom Jun 13, 2015 11:12 pm


Originally Posted by jackhorse (Post 24965964)
Dear SPG lurker,

Please check it out award calendar at Four Points by Sheraton Bangkok. There is NO free night(award night) availability until early August(June, July and early dates of Auguest - even 1 single date) however Bangkok is not peak season and standard room is offering if book with paid night.

I am very curios Hotel did some tricks for controlling the availability date of award night. (or minimize number of standard rooms)

Biggest befit of SPG is no award blackout date if standard room is available. It's positive that the hotel control award inventory somehow.

could you please review?

Totally agree with you

It available only 11 12 16 17 18 19 23 25 26 31 august, zero availability on entry june and july.That really weird in addition to another property are plentifull of reward nights.:(

jackhorse Jun 13, 2015 11:50 pm

Yes, they ask bigger points if you call them, for example 4,000 or 5,000 for weekend.

It's suspicion that Hotel control inventory on purpose for charging more points from guest or blocking award night. I think this is violating T&C or contacting between SPG and hotel.

jackhorse Jun 13, 2015 11:55 pm


Originally Posted by nongsom (Post 24966931)
Totally agree with you

It available only 11 12 16 17 18 19 23 25 26 31 august, zero availability on entry june and july.That really weird in addition to another property are plentifull of reward nights.:(


Hopefully SPG lurker review and help on this issue.

cln Jun 14, 2015 3:24 am

They only have four standard rooms I think. I introduced a couple of new categories some time ago to limit award availability... This is very obvious because sometimes the rooms you could book for standard point redemption is more expensive than the next category....


I checked rates for December and four points is pretty expensive.... More then LM and ros... Doesn't make sense :)

choco Jun 14, 2015 3:59 am

Don't Stay Here
 
I will be happy when this property is thrown out of SPG.

They've gone from fantastic recognition of SPG members to ..
.. something approaching a 'recognition joke' .

They just don't give a damn anymore and this blackout date
boo boo is just another nail in their coffin.

Honestly, with so many other outstanding Starwood properties
to choose from in Bangkok, there's little need anymore to fool
with FPB.

jackhorse Jun 14, 2015 7:04 am


Originally Posted by cln (Post 24967347)
They only have four standard rooms I think. I introduced a couple of new categories some time ago to limit award availability... This is very obvious because sometimes the rooms you could book for standard point redemption is more expensive than the next category....


I checked rates for December and four points is pretty expensive.... More then LM and ros... Doesn't make sense :)


That's my point. propery may set very little number of room for standard room and it always be able to say that we sold out standard room. I guess it's 1-2% from total room of this property. :mad:

I am wondering there is any of restriction.

jackhorse Jun 14, 2015 7:06 am


Originally Posted by choco (Post 24967413)
I will be happy when this property is thrown out of SPG.

They've gone from fantastic recognition of SPG members to ..
.. something approaching a 'recognition joke' .

They just don't give a damn anymore and this blackout date
boo boo is just another nail in their coffin.

Honestly, with so many other outstanding Starwood properties
to choose from in Bangkok, there's little need anymore to fool
with FPB.


Once again SPG lurker help on this. this is moral issue!!

nongsom Jun 14, 2015 7:08 am

Search for long date for availability of comfort room
Found Bookable in
2 Comfort Room (28-32 m2)
4 Comfort Non-smoking Room (28 m2)
That is maximum that i can found but mainly found 2 comfort and 2 comfort non-smoking

Paiteaw Jun 14, 2015 8:15 am

I have noticed that the points price has been increased from a previous 3000 points to 4000 points for stays in December of this year. Anyone else run into this on the SPG website ?

KENNECTED Jun 14, 2015 8:55 am


Originally Posted by Paiteaw (Post 24967965)
I have noticed that the points price has been increased from a previous 3000 points to 4000 points for stays in December of this year. Anyone else run into this on the SPG website ?

It depends on if it's a weekend or a weeknight.
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/fourpo..._category.html

Paiteaw Jun 14, 2015 5:20 pm

I looked at both and they are asking 4000 points /nt.
So what's up with that ? Sunday is a weeknight ?

mahasamatman Jun 14, 2015 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by Paiteaw (Post 24970008)
Sunday is a weeknight ?

That is correct.

(Added: The property may have also moved up from a Cat 1 to a Cat 2, thus raising the weekday date from 3,000 to 4,000.)

Dr. HFH Jun 14, 2015 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by Paiteaw (Post 24970008)
So what's up with that ? Sunday is a weeknight ?

Yes, same as when you were young, -- Sunday is a school night.


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