Free night award and room taxes
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 75
Free night award and room taxes
Dear all,
Just booked a free night on points (just points not C&P) at Westin Grand in Vancouver BC, and the confirmation page had something I don't think I have seen before:
i.e. There is $20 of room taxes on top the points.
Is this normal? I thought SPG free nights are paid for including taxes?
Just booked a free night on points (just points not C&P) at Westin Grand in Vancouver BC, and the confirmation page had something I don't think I have seen before:
Room rate: 10,000 Starpoints
10,000 Starpoints
Room rate excludes the following:
Dest. Mktg. Fee: CAD 0.91 CAD 0.91
1.50 % Per Room / Per Night
Gst: CAD 6.05 CAD 6.05
5.00 % Per Person / Per Night
Hotel Room Tax: CAD 12.10 CAD 12.10
10.00 % Per Person / Per Night
Estimated total: 10,000 Starpoints 10,000 Starpoints
+ CAD 19.06 + CAD 19.06
in excluded charges in excluded charges
10,000 Starpoints
Room rate excludes the following:
Dest. Mktg. Fee: CAD 0.91 CAD 0.91
1.50 % Per Room / Per Night
Gst: CAD 6.05 CAD 6.05
5.00 % Per Person / Per Night
Hotel Room Tax: CAD 12.10 CAD 12.10
10.00 % Per Person / Per Night
Estimated total: 10,000 Starpoints 10,000 Starpoints
+ CAD 19.06 + CAD 19.06
in excluded charges in excluded charges
Is this normal? I thought SPG free nights are paid for including taxes?
#2
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 114
No taxes on my award redemption last month in Boston. So, i think that's not normal.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SYD
Programs: QF LTS, TK Elite, HH Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 175
Point Award stays do not attract any taxes. Full stop.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
"Free Night Awards are each valid for one free night, single and/or double standard room occupancy at participating properties, and include the cost of your hotel room and room tax/service charge."
See: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ee_nights.html
I would suggest to contact the hotel immediately to have this resolved asap. I would also suggest contacting the Corp. to let them know that this hotel's systems are failing and as a result they give the perception of not adhering to SPG Program's published rules re: free night award redemptions.
Straight from the horse's mouth:
"Free Night Awards are each valid for one free night, single and/or double standard room occupancy at participating properties, and include the cost of your hotel room and room tax/service charge."
See: https://www.starwoodhotels.com/prefe...ee_nights.html
I would suggest to contact the hotel immediately to have this resolved asap. I would also suggest contacting the Corp. to let them know that this hotel's systems are failing and as a result they give the perception of not adhering to SPG Program's published rules re: free night award redemptions.
#4
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New York, NY
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Posts: 10,869
Dear all,
Just booked a free night on points (just points not C&P) at Westin Grand in Vancouver BC, and the confirmation page had something I don't think I have seen before:
i.e. There is $20 of room taxes on top the points.
Is this normal? I thought SPG free nights are paid for including taxes?
Just booked a free night on points (just points not C&P) at Westin Grand in Vancouver BC, and the confirmation page had something I don't think I have seen before:
i.e. There is $20 of room taxes on top the points.
Is this normal? I thought SPG free nights are paid for including taxes?
#5
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 75
This is consistent with the info provided in the thread above. Thanks Kennected.
However, as you can see from the original post, all the additional charges are quoted as "% of". But the chat agent was unable to give an explanation why they are extra.
so I decided to vote with my wallet and take my redemption to Sheraton Wall Centre a couple blocks out.
Sheraton doesn't charge the 5% or 10% taxes seen above. But still charges Destination Marketing Fee of 1.5%. (http://www.vanhda.ca/DMF_FAQ.pdf) Which is a non-governmental fee unique to vancouver hotels.
In principle I still find that irritating. But I am less inclined to make a fuss for <$1.
So seems two conclusions can be drawn:
1/ Westin is making some sort of tax grab.
2/ The DMF seems unavoidable in the city of Vancouver. meh
Last edited by 3dot14; May 4, 2013 at 11:00 am
#6
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: KSA
Programs: Marriott AMB, Skywards Gold
Posts: 3,737
Or it's just a system error, I just booked a free night at the Le Parker Meridien in Palm Springs and the agent told me there is a charge of 55 USD, where the charge should be only 30 USD (Resort Fee) plus tax which will make it go to 34 or 35 USD. So it was just a system error.
#7
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Location: New York, NY, USA
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I choose 3) system coding error and there will be no tax charged.@:-)
#8
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I also would give you pretty good odds on a bet that you wouldn't have been charged any taxes. This has shown up of many of my award reservations, I just ignore them nowadays.
#9
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: boston, ma, USA
Posts: 131
My free room at Four Points by Sheraton LAX have a tax of 52 cents. It's no big deal but it's a troubling trend to worry about, especially for California.
#10
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#11
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#12
This also happens in Morocco. Just got charged 33 MAD per night city tax. I checked with the platinum concierge and they confirmed that city taxes are not covered by the points as they are a fixed rate and not charged as a percentage of the cost of the room.