Aug 25, 2017, 7:19 am
Last edit by: Oxon Flyer
It can take up to 7 business days from the day you qualified for your Lifetime Platinum status to be picked up by the system.
Starwood / Marriott merger
Q : What will happen to my Lifetime Status when the programs merge together in the future?
A : Rest assured we will always recognize your Lifetime Status, whether it is today in your earned program or in the future with a new, combined program.
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#what-will-happen-to-my-lifetime-status-when-the-programs-merge-together-in-the-future
Starwood / Marriott merger
Q : What will happen to my Lifetime Status when the programs merge together in the future?
A : Rest assured we will always recognize your Lifetime Status, whether it is today in your earned program or in the future with a new, combined program.
http://members.marriott.com/faq/#what-will-happen-to-my-lifetime-status-when-the-programs-merge-together-in-the-future
Discussion: SPG Lifetime™ Gold and SPG Lifetime™ Platinum status
Apr 17, 2018, 1:40 pm
#1861
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: B6 Mosaic, Bonvoy LT Titanium (x SPG LT), IHG Spire, UA Silver
Posts: 5,847
My Ambassador got this question from multiple people and has passed it along to those higher up. Remember that this was just the first announcement and they have several more months to work out the details and to address issues which they did not think about or did not consider for whatever reason. I am sure we will get confirmation one way or the other as time goes by and they work through the issues raised.
Apr 17, 2018, 1:41 pm
#1862
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
Not surprising at all. Especially given MR does not believe in FT and rarely, if at all, monitors FT. If you want to get their attention then sign into Marriott Insiders and post the question there. I bet the Lurkers are probably a step or two in front of us, but also inundated with requests and will need a few days to catch up with FT posts.
Apr 17, 2018, 2:06 pm
#1863
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 77
I, like everyone else, will have to wait and see. Thank you for the input. Fingers crossed.
Apr 17, 2018, 2:10 pm
#1864
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Homosassa, FL & Ringwood, NJ -UA-G(Lifetime); SPG-Plat (Lifetime)
Posts: 6,120
I still don't have an answer to what happens to the lounge access guaranteed at Sheratons because of my SPG Business Amex card. I paid for this card based on this specific benefit....
Apr 17, 2018, 2:11 pm
#1865
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: PHL
Programs: Marriott LTT, Amtrak Select, Hertz 5*, AA Gold, IHG Plat, National Exec
Posts: 1,312
Apr 17, 2018, 2:13 pm
#1866
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
If this is the case, which I don't think it is, it means that some SPG Plats will have a path to lifetime PP because their SPG nights and points would transfer to legacy Marriott allowing them to be grandfathered in through the legacy platinum requirements. According to the web site, Lifetime SPG Gold equals Lifetime Gold in the new program not lifetime Marriott Gold which equals lifetime Plat. I believe that in the case you describe above, you will be lifetime Gold in the new program and not lifetime Plat.
You would then have to meet the requirements for Lifetime Plat under the new program which is 10 years of being Platinum and 750 nights. If at any year you reached platinum during your SPG years those years would count toward the 10 and of course your 500 nights would count towards the 750. Points do not matter at all.
Can someone clarify?
You would then have to meet the requirements for Lifetime Plat under the new program which is 10 years of being Platinum and 750 nights. If at any year you reached platinum during your SPG years those years would count toward the 10 and of course your 500 nights would count towards the 750. Points do not matter at all.
Can someone clarify?
What is not clear is whether there is any path for SPG LTP to attain LT Plat Premier Elite status in the new program. As you said, I'd be pissed if my combined nights and points meet current MR LTP requirements, but I don't have a way to reach LT Plat Premier Elite.
Apr 17, 2018, 2:32 pm
#1867
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego, CA/Boston, MA
Programs: United Lifetime Plat 2 million, Starwood Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold 75k
Posts: 143
Hi Folks,
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Thank you for your input.
I don't think they will get the legacy Marriott Gold LT status (which maps to LT Plat in the new program) when they merge all of their SPG nights/points into the new account in August. They will get whatever they are entitled to in the new program but would need 10 years of Platinum status in either program and 750 nights between both programs. Points won't matter.
Am I missing something?
Apr 17, 2018, 2:34 pm
#1868
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
Programs: AA EXP - 3.7MM, Bonv LIFETIME Titan, HH Dmd, Hyatt Glob., Priority Clb Dmd, Ntnl Exec El., Sixt PLT
Posts: 1,680
It sucks even more to realize that if I cancel all my award reservations made with SPG points, multiply that by 3 and combine with minor lifetime Marriott points, I will be at about 2,000,000 Marriott points in the combined account. This is in addition to 168,000K SPG points (x3=504,000 Marriott points) I burned last year alone. (and having 764 life time nights with SPG alone).
Apr 17, 2018, 2:47 pm
#1869
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
You are referring to this case, right?
I don't think they will get the legacy Marriott Gold LT status (which maps to LT Plat in the new program) when they merge all of their SPG nights/points into the new account in August. They will get whatever they are entitled to in the new program but would need 10 years of Platinum status in either program and 750 nights between both programs. Points won't matter.
Am I missing something?
I don't think they will get the legacy Marriott Gold LT status (which maps to LT Plat in the new program) when they merge all of their SPG nights/points into the new account in August. They will get whatever they are entitled to in the new program but would need 10 years of Platinum status in either program and 750 nights between both programs. Points won't matter.
Am I missing something?
Apr 17, 2018, 4:06 pm
#1870
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,005
The "old rules" are the old rules. They aren't "the old rule plus some new stuff"
Then you have 200,000 Marriott points. Your SPG points have never had anything to do with your legacy MR balance for earning MR LT status.
Last edited by CPRich; Apr 17, 2018 at 4:11 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 4:15 pm
#1871
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,005
Also pretty clear to me - no.
Apr 17, 2018, 4:20 pm
#1872
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,005
I'm not sure if this has been answered, so I apologize if it has...In August, when they merge our accounts, if we then quality for MR lifetime status based on combined nights and points, will we get MR Lifetime status and then at the end of the year the equivalent new program lifetime status? For example, I'm LT SPG Gold with no LT status in MR. However, my combined nights will put me over 500, and with 800,000 current SPG points, at a 3:1 transfer rate, I'll have well over 1.6 million points in MR. Will I then get LT MR Gold, which translates at the end of 2018 to LT Platinum Elite in the new program?
Your combined nights, years, etc., are combined to see if you earn LT status from the new program guidelines. If your "over 500" is over 600, and you have 10 years of earned Platinum between the programs, you will earn LT Platinum. If not, that's your target. Points is not a criterion in the new program, so 1.6M doesn't factor in.
Please explain what details you are reading that disagrees with the above.
Apr 17, 2018, 4:22 pm
#1873
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
And let's not even talk about how bad LTGs have it.
Apr 17, 2018, 4:23 pm
#1874
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,005
Again, I think it's clear the answer is no. And yes, quite a few people are upset about it. And yes, it's very possible that it will change, given the feedback. But as of now - no.
Last edited by CPRich; Apr 17, 2018 at 4:30 pm
Apr 17, 2018, 4:27 pm
#1875
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: MR/SPG LT Titanium, AA LT PLT, UA SLV, Avis PreferredPlus
Posts: 31,005
Combined nights are pretty clear.
Years at PLT will be, I believe, the sum of years earning PLT in either program over your history. If you earn PLT in both in one year, it will count as 2.
So if you have >600 nights total, earned PLT in MR 6 times and PLT in SPG 4 times, you will qualify under the new program for LT PLT, as you have 600 nights and 10 years as PLT.
Even if all 4 of those SPG years overlapped with the 6 MR years.