St. Regis Saadiyat Island Resort, Abu Dhabi, UAE United Arab Emirates Opened Nov,11
#151
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 337
This issue with complimentary tea and coffee sounds very bizarre to me, and not in alignment with St Regis' standard operating procedures. I would escalate to SPG CCC and see what comes of it. I am sure that the property is in the wrong.
#152
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: South Korea
Posts: 1,168
...and if the SPG CC decides that the property has done nothing wrong here, this will allow for others to follow suit and interpret the benefit in whichever way they find convenient.
I hope the program designers realize that one of the core reasons to why people choose a global brand like the St. Regis or the Sheraton or the Hyatt or Holiday Inn is because of a certain level of standardization that takes away a lot of the guesswork. When I check into a branded hotel, I want to be at ease in knowing what I am (not) entitled to, at least for their 'signature' services.
Please limit this hands-off stance of "leaving it up to the individual property to decide" - I know SPG is in the business of pleasing the property owners but ultimately the guests who fill the rooms (particularly the elite level ones) want a certain level of consistency at least when it comes to the so called 'brand signature services' like the St. Regis butler service.
I hope the program designers realize that one of the core reasons to why people choose a global brand like the St. Regis or the Sheraton or the Hyatt or Holiday Inn is because of a certain level of standardization that takes away a lot of the guesswork. When I check into a branded hotel, I want to be at ease in knowing what I am (not) entitled to, at least for their 'signature' services.
Please limit this hands-off stance of "leaving it up to the individual property to decide" - I know SPG is in the business of pleasing the property owners but ultimately the guests who fill the rooms (particularly the elite level ones) want a certain level of consistency at least when it comes to the so called 'brand signature services' like the St. Regis butler service.
#153
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 337
FWIW, I decided to check the guest compendium at the St Regis Kuala Lumpur, where I'm currently saying, and the wording seems consistent with what the property at Saadiyat Island has said in that they mention they offer tea/coffee on arrival and also after a wakeup call, but no mention about other times during a stay. See here under "beverage service". This property has been open for about a year.
That said, I have requested coffee about a dozen times and there has never been a mention of a charge here.
That said, I have requested coffee about a dozen times and there has never been a mention of a charge here.
#154
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 573
Corporate did you lose control on your brend ??
I can confirm what LSL wrote thay don't want serve by butler "beverage service" they serve via Private Dinning and charge you for this service.
Just check in and at once press 'Butler Service' on phone butler on phone and want order one americano and one black tee at once butler switch us to 'private dinning' when they pickup my phone I ask again this is butler service and answer was 'no, this is private dinninig our butler service don't serve beverages no more and you will be charged for this order. I check again that I am in correct hotel maybe this is Hyatt next door but they confirm me that I am still in StR'. After 20min butler came and bring our order, second time afternoon I make second order and again this same happen. Now I check my bill on I see charges for 2 'beverage service' ??
Now we have self-butler beverage service in StR's ??
Similar situation happen 4 days ago in StR Shanghai, we order one green tee and one hot chocolate (I know that hot chocolate is not free of charge in butler beverage service) after 20min we have call back from butler service ' Mr. we don't have 'hot chocolate' (hymm, I don't ask about caviar !!!)' I change order to one green tee and one black tee, after next 30min butler came to our room with one empty teapot and two cups, he see my surprised face and starts explain what I can do with this things :
1. you have electric kettle in room, in drawer you have tea bags pls make yourself tee.
I have more surprised face and he change his idea and take kettle and starts going to bathroom to take water but I stop him (my wife was in bathroom in the bath) my next step was kick off him outside with this all self-butler things. After next 30 min he came again with two pots with ready black and green tee.
Lurkers can you check whats happen with your brand St. Regis ??
Just check in and at once press 'Butler Service' on phone butler on phone and want order one americano and one black tee at once butler switch us to 'private dinning' when they pickup my phone I ask again this is butler service and answer was 'no, this is private dinninig our butler service don't serve beverages no more and you will be charged for this order. I check again that I am in correct hotel maybe this is Hyatt next door but they confirm me that I am still in StR'. After 20min butler came and bring our order, second time afternoon I make second order and again this same happen. Now I check my bill on I see charges for 2 'beverage service' ??
Now we have self-butler beverage service in StR's ??
Similar situation happen 4 days ago in StR Shanghai, we order one green tee and one hot chocolate (I know that hot chocolate is not free of charge in butler beverage service) after 20min we have call back from butler service ' Mr. we don't have 'hot chocolate' (hymm, I don't ask about caviar !!!)' I change order to one green tee and one black tee, after next 30min butler came to our room with one empty teapot and two cups, he see my surprised face and starts explain what I can do with this things :
1. you have electric kettle in room, in drawer you have tea bags pls make yourself tee.
I have more surprised face and he change his idea and take kettle and starts going to bathroom to take water but I stop him (my wife was in bathroom in the bath) my next step was kick off him outside with this all self-butler things. After next 30 min he came again with two pots with ready black and green tee.
Lurkers can you check whats happen with your brand St. Regis ??
#155
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: SPG
Posts: 713
I can confirm what LSL wrote thay don't want serve by butler "beverage service" they serve via Private Dinning and charge you for this service.
Just check in and at once press 'Butler Service' on phone butler on phone and want order one americano and one black tee at once butler switch us to 'private dinning' when they pickup my phone I ask again this is butler service and answer was 'no, this is private dinninig our butler service don't serve beverages no more and you will be charged for this order. I check again that I am in correct hotel maybe this is Hyatt next door but they confirm me that I am still in StR'. After 20min butler came and bring our order, second time afternoon I make second order and again this same happen. Now I check my bill on I see charges for 2 'beverage service' ??
Now we have self-butler beverage service in StR's ??
Similar situation happen 4 days ago in StR Shanghai, we order one green tee and one hot chocolate (I know that hot chocolate is not free of charge in butler beverage service) after 20min we have call back from butler service ' Mr. we don't have 'hot chocolate' (hymm, I don't ask about caviar !!!)' I change order to one green tee and one black tee, after next 30min butler came to our room with one empty teapot and two cups, he see my surprised face and starts explain what I can do with this things :
1. you have electric kettle in room, in drawer you have tea bags pls make yourself tee.
I have more surprised face and he change his idea and take kettle and starts going to bathroom to take water but I stop him (my wife was in bathroom in the bath) my next step was kick off him outside with this all self-butler things. After next 30 min he came again with two pots with ready black and green tee.
Lurkers can you check whats happen with your brand St. Regis ??
Just check in and at once press 'Butler Service' on phone butler on phone and want order one americano and one black tee at once butler switch us to 'private dinning' when they pickup my phone I ask again this is butler service and answer was 'no, this is private dinninig our butler service don't serve beverages no more and you will be charged for this order. I check again that I am in correct hotel maybe this is Hyatt next door but they confirm me that I am still in StR'. After 20min butler came and bring our order, second time afternoon I make second order and again this same happen. Now I check my bill on I see charges for 2 'beverage service' ??
Now we have self-butler beverage service in StR's ??
Similar situation happen 4 days ago in StR Shanghai, we order one green tee and one hot chocolate (I know that hot chocolate is not free of charge in butler beverage service) after 20min we have call back from butler service ' Mr. we don't have 'hot chocolate' (hymm, I don't ask about caviar !!!)' I change order to one green tee and one black tee, after next 30min butler came to our room with one empty teapot and two cups, he see my surprised face and starts explain what I can do with this things :
1. you have electric kettle in room, in drawer you have tea bags pls make yourself tee.
I have more surprised face and he change his idea and take kettle and starts going to bathroom to take water but I stop him (my wife was in bathroom in the bath) my next step was kick off him outside with this all self-butler things. After next 30 min he came again with two pots with ready black and green tee.
Lurkers can you check whats happen with your brand St. Regis ??
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#156
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, NYC
Programs: Marriott Gold, JGC, IHG Platinum, Hilton Gold, AC 25K
Posts: 1,025
St Regis in Shanghai? If it's the St. Regis Shanghai Jingan then I'd give it more time as it's a brand new hotel.
#157
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 573
They call me to room and try explain that butler beverage service is only for Royal Suite (they have it ??) and try build another story why they charge for this service.
Now you have this self beverage service here and corporate told different and hotel make different.
Lurkers can you put any official info whats happen in this properity ? For me it is no so important I will make orders and if thay still charge me I will reject bill on checkout. But for us as members is important your answer they can do it or not.
Now you have this self beverage service here and corporate told different and hotel make different.
Lurkers can you put any official info whats happen in this properity ? For me it is no so important I will make orders and if thay still charge me I will reject bill on checkout. But for us as members is important your answer they can do it or not.
#158
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 573
StR Shanghai mini bar
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#159
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA EXP, AA LT Gold, SPG Plat 75
Posts: 889
Does anyone have any updated experience at this hotel?
Was thinking of booking a couple of nights for early August, but the service concerns mentioned here are making me hesitate.
Was thinking of booking a couple of nights for early August, but the service concerns mentioned here are making me hesitate.
#161
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,768
I can't believe we have had 2 pages of comment on getting someone to bring you a tea for free when there are good hot beverage facilities in room.
It is a hot country (most of the year), the last thing I normally want is hot beverages or calling someone to come and bring me one simply because it is "free", albeit by the time you have tipped the butler a reasonable amount it is starting to look like a very similar price to the Tea shop in the lobby.
It would be nice to broaden out the focus on what I have found to be an excellent resort property.
It is a hot country (most of the year), the last thing I normally want is hot beverages or calling someone to come and bring me one simply because it is "free", albeit by the time you have tipped the butler a reasonable amount it is starting to look like a very similar price to the Tea shop in the lobby.
It would be nice to broaden out the focus on what I have found to be an excellent resort property.
#162
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 573
Why users spend 20 and more pages on FREE upgrade to better room if it is free case is not about this coffee or tee but about rules.
In Germany we don't tip any service if it is standard, second for me coffee from this room unit not tastes like coffee from a high-pressure machine.
In Germany we don't tip any service if it is standard, second for me coffee from this room unit not tastes like coffee from a high-pressure machine.
#163
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: MAN and LON
Programs: Mucci, BAEC LT Gold, HH Dia, MR LT Plat, IHG Diamond Amb, Amex Plat
Posts: 13,768
Why users spend 20 and more pages on FREE upgrade to better room if it is free case is not about this coffee or tee but about rules.
In Germany we don't tip any service if it is standard, second for me coffee from this room unit not tastes like coffee from a high-pressure machine.
In Germany we don't tip any service if it is standard, second for me coffee from this room unit not tastes like coffee from a high-pressure machine.
I am much more troubled by the lack of availability of pork products for breakfast in the restaurant but I wouldn't expect to bang on for 2 pages about that either.
#164
Community Director Emerita
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 33,739
I am thinking to stay here and visit the just opened Abu Dhabi Louvre after seeing @JohnRain's beautiful pictures of the museum. I am a plat. Can I expect a water view on a mid week stay (not during the yearend holidays)? What does the hotel offer plats if breakfast is chosen as the amenity?
We are great fans of the Avasa Indian Kitchen in the adjacent shopping complex. It has probably been two years since we have eaten there. Is it still good?
We are great fans of the Avasa Indian Kitchen in the adjacent shopping complex. It has probably been two years since we have eaten there. Is it still good?
#165
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Geneva, Dubai, Paris
Programs: Disillusioned Cent
Posts: 1,880
I am thinking to stay here and visit the just opened Abu Dhabi Louvre after seeing @JohnRain's beautiful pictures of the museum. I am a plat. Can I expect a water view on a mid week stay (not during the yearend holidays)? What does the hotel offer plats if breakfast is chosen as the amenity?
We are great fans of the Avasa Indian Kitchen in the adjacent shopping complex. It has probably been two years since we have eaten there. Is it still good?
We are great fans of the Avasa Indian Kitchen in the adjacent shopping complex. It has probably been two years since we have eaten there. Is it still good?
You can definitely expect a water view room/suite as a Plat.
(I’m only Gold and I’ve stayed at the property many times, always with Ocean View.) As for the amenity, may I suggest to book through Amex FHR which includes full (buffet) breakfast at this property. That way you’ll make sure to get the 500 points as welcome amenity. I’m still at the property while I’m writing this and I just met with the GM (great guy), so if you have anything else you’d like to know just shoot me a private message. (I can’t comment on Avasa as I haven’t been).