Properties that have left Starwood in Australia and SE Asia
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Properties that have left Starwood in Australia and SE Asia
Sheraton Melbourne (now langham)
W Sydney (now blue)
Sheraton Sydney Airport (now stamford)
Sheraton Brisbane (now sofitel)
Sheraton Auckland (now langham)
Sheraton Rotorua (now rydges)
Last edited by mario33; Jul 7, 2010 at 9:07 am Reason: W Sydney
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It seems *wood is more focused on China and other 'growth regions', which they should, but please don't let the current props to be taken over by other chains.
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The Sheraton (4 Points) at Port McQuarie
Sheraton Hobart Hotel (Now Grand Chancellor)
Sheraton Darwin (Now Crowne Plaza)
Alice Springs , Ayers Rock,
Townsville......all gone
Starwood are on the ropes in Australia. A very sad day indeed.
Where are the new properties Mr Hunt?
Now they have artefact and not a portfolio here.
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I didn't realise there were so many properties in the past. To what do you attribute the decline? If management doesn't care, why is that the case?
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Those who work for Starwood would probably disagree, but I feel Starwood has gotten a little arrogant as a result of their earlier success. Any property that is a little dated is given the boot and they are apparently getting more stringient on the terms of their management contracts (but not on their choice of properties). What they fail to realise is that the owners of these properties do have other options, and they wont close shop without a Starwood brand.
Since we have a list of Australian & NZ properties which are no longer managed by Starwood, I will also start one for SE Asia based on my memory :-
Le Meridien Nirvana Bali (now Pan Pacific)
Le Royal Meridien Phuket Yacht Club
Le Meridien Singapore (now Concorde)
Le Meridien Changi Village
Le Royal Meridien Koh Samui
Sheraton Brunei (now Raddison)
Sheraton Chiang Mai (now Holiday Inn)
Sheraton Subang
Sheraton Penang
Sheraton Labuan
Sheraton Tamika (?)
Westin Bangkok (now Banyan Tree)
Westin Plaza Singapore (now Fairmont)
Westin Stamford Singapore (now Swissotel)
Rayavadee LC Krabi
Four Points Phuket (became Millenium before opening)
Since we have a list of Australian & NZ properties which are no longer managed by Starwood, I will also start one for SE Asia based on my memory :-
Le Meridien Nirvana Bali (now Pan Pacific)
Le Royal Meridien Phuket Yacht Club
Le Meridien Singapore (now Concorde)
Le Meridien Changi Village
Le Royal Meridien Koh Samui
Sheraton Brunei (now Raddison)
Sheraton Chiang Mai (now Holiday Inn)
Sheraton Subang
Sheraton Penang
Sheraton Labuan
Sheraton Tamika (?)
Westin Bangkok (now Banyan Tree)
Westin Plaza Singapore (now Fairmont)
Westin Stamford Singapore (now Swissotel)
Rayavadee LC Krabi
Four Points Phuket (became Millenium before opening)
Last edited by mario33; Jul 9, 2010 at 11:16 am Reason: Banyan Tree
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I've moved this discussion out from the Sheraton Perth thread as it is a much broader discussion than just that property being deflagged.
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This is the whole reason I ended up joining the IHG loyal program as well. In Australia, Starwood are just not that well represented.
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What about
The Sheraton (4 Points) at Port McQuarie
Sheraton Hobart Hotel (Now Grand Chancellor)
Sheraton Darwin (Now Crowne Plaza)
Alice Springs , Ayers Rock,
Townsville......all gone
Starwood are on the ropes in Australia. A very sad day indeed.
Where are the new properties Mr Hunt?
Now they have artefact and not a portfolio here.
The Sheraton (4 Points) at Port McQuarie
Sheraton Hobart Hotel (Now Grand Chancellor)
Sheraton Darwin (Now Crowne Plaza)
Alice Springs , Ayers Rock,
Townsville......all gone
Starwood are on the ropes in Australia. A very sad day indeed.
Where are the new properties Mr Hunt?
Now they have artefact and not a portfolio here.
Just for my curiousity -- how is former *wood property in Ayers Rock called now?
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As for Starwood neglecting 'Australia + Asia', try having a look at net change in Starwood properties in the region over the last five years. There has been significant investment.
Whether *wood has sufficient coverage for people who travel extensively within Australia is a different question. There are valid reasons Hilton + Marriott have so many U.S. elite members, as with Delta hotels and Fairmont in Canada. Not every chain is strong everywhere.
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Exotic or not, the visitor counts just don't register Australia as a top tourist destination. 2006 France: 78 million foreign visitors. 2007 Australia: 5.6 million foreign visitors.
As for Starwood neglecting 'Australia + Asia', try having a look at net change in Starwood properties in the region over the last five years. There has been significant investment.
Whether *wood has sufficient coverage for people who travel extensively within Australia is a different question. There are valid reasons Hilton + Marriott have so many U.S. elite members, as with Delta hotels and Fairmont in Canada. Not every chain is strong everywhere.
As for Starwood neglecting 'Australia + Asia', try having a look at net change in Starwood properties in the region over the last five years. There has been significant investment.
Whether *wood has sufficient coverage for people who travel extensively within Australia is a different question. There are valid reasons Hilton + Marriott have so many U.S. elite members, as with Delta hotels and Fairmont in Canada. Not every chain is strong everywhere.